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Originally Posted by Master-Classter View Post

I've tried on the raw black and raw indigo a few times and found the same thing. I sized one up for the faux noir / black ones. Also note, as I've mentioned several times that sometimes the indigo ones offer a 1-2% stretch which makes a huge comfort difference but the same black pair don't for some reason.

it seems that the 2% stetch options have different measurements when looking at measurements online. This seems to have been the case at least for the PNS where the rise is considerably lower.

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Originally Posted by Juhdis View Post


Thanks for the response.

I think you might be right. I recently bought Edwin ED-85s in a 33 and they've stretched 3 inches in just under 2 weeks of wear and that's swaying me, as before that I was considering the 33s. I'm aware the Edwins contain 1.5% elastane but all in all the stretch can't be too dissimilar, right?

Did you get the 32s? If so, how are they working out?

I'm on my first wear today of new 32 Petit Standards. I was facing the same choice as you (32 or 33)! They're tight but not uncomfortable on day 1.
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does anybody else own a pair of the black gabardine pns?

i've worn mine twice now, and while the fit is fine and all, i've noticed that the rise feels noticeably shorter than on the other pairs of pns i have



whereas on my stonewashed pns my ballsack rests comfortably on top of the crotch seam, on my gabardine pair it's forced down the left side of my pants leg

it isn't too bad when standing/walking, but it's uncomfortable when sitting down and i'm unsure if sizing up one would even make a difference (would be another $100+ on a pair of pants i already own, too)

the waist is also noticabely tighter than on my other pns



could this all simply be attributed to the material? because from what i can discern, the gabardine pair has the same length rise as the other pairs when laid down over them

or maybe the tighter waist is causing them to sit higher on my hips, thus pulling the crotch seam up?
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Can anyone expand on the sizing of the pns stonewashed indigo sizing? Do they stretch? Size down or true to size?
Thanks for any help!
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Can anyone comment on the fit of the current season MA-1 bomber? Some sites suggest going up a size, while others suggest TTS.

 

I'm typically a medium in APC shirting. 6'3, 180lbs, 41 inch chest.

post #13521 of 13614

Hi

 

someone knows if A.P.C has released a black raw pair of rescue model in the past ?

 

txs

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Hey guys just been reading through and wanted a quick opinion. I just got some PNS in a 30" waist. I normally wear a 31/32 in other brands but thought id size down. Been wearing them this afternoon and not sure if they are too tight and should go up a size, also this cardboard feel is making me think they wont give much but I guess they will ?? They button up full but are pretty uncomfortable walking around/sitting...

 

 

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Hey man!

 

I had this dilemma in May and personally the best advice (in my opinion) on here is post #13472 by cute melon - try the jeans in a size you would want them to end up fitting like and size down one, I wish I did that but it worked out in the end that I got the right size because of gut feel.

 

From your pics they look alright, but I think it's hard to tell from photos. 

 

I bought PNS 33s (because of vanity sizing they actually measured at 34in) and within 2 weeks they became PNS 35s (measured 36in). They didn't feel like they stretched that much because they still had the cardboard feel. I'm just over two months of wear and I haven't noticed the waist stretching to make them too baggy but then again I wear a belt (because I don't like the creases in the waist band :| ).

 

The top block/seat area as a whole gets more comfortable (i.e. less cardboard-y) but I don't think it stretches so much that it's a noticeable difference or that they will fall down without a belt; I still feel mine to be a little restrictive sometimes.

 

Ultimately, if the top block/seat is uncomfortably tight, I think it might be the wrong size. 

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Did you get the 32s? If so, how are they working out?

I'm on my first wear today of new 32 Petit Standards. I was facing the same choice as you (32 or 33)! They're tight but not uncomfortable on day 1.


Hey! Sorry I've just seen this. 

 

I went with 33s, I was a bit worried about my perception of tightness and sizing down so I thought I wouldn't risk it. Overall, I think it worked out. They are pretty comfortable and they stretched out as others said, exactly 2 inches in the waist but they also stretched just over an inch around the knees. 

 

In my opinion, it's about how they fit around the top block/seat area rather than worrying about the waist because I don't feel like that's changed much, not enough to have warranted the 32s for me. I think the 32s might have been just slightly too tight after wear in the top block/seat area regardless of the waist.

 

The 33s are legit, I've been hiking in these, worn them consistently everyday 12 hours plus and they feel comfortable. Also, they are coming along quite nicely with whiskers, honeycombs, phone and wallet outlines too.

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hey guys and @dimanchey

I have a pair Ive been wearing for over 3 years now and a new pair Ive been wearing for about a month, Ive sold a pair wore for a year before as well. I still stick with what i said of sizing down one from a pair that fits the way you like brand new. @Juhdis

 

as for the  cardboard feel that will go away in time. My 3 year pair is very comfortable and soft. The feel should give away completely after a couple months. Comparing them next to my newer pair, its pretty cool to see how different they are. My gf doesn't believe my 3 year pair looked like the new pair.

 

I used to wear the PNS in size 28 but ive gotten fatter over the years and my newest pair is a size 29. (i liked the 30 fit and sized down one) but i found the legs opening too big so i had them altered knee down. 
I know this means they are not the original cut, but i believe the most important aspect of denim fit is the top block.

 

@dimancheyyour pair looks fine. If you can button them up they will give a bit and stretch to comfortable levels. My size 28s increased 2 waist sizes and when I first bought them they almost didnt button up all the way. They will 100% stretch with wear

 

 

http://imgur.com/a/E4qub

here is an album of mine at 16 months after their first wash. theyve been washed more now and look lighter and much nicer imo, but I havn't taken a picture but I should when I get a change and don't feel so lazy. I would say the color is now between the first album and this pair of washed John Elliotts  I am selling https://*****************/listings/816794-John-Elliott---Co-Cast-Coast-Denim (using this to advertise my sales)


Edited by cutemelon - 8/5/16 at 3:03pm
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@cutemelon  and @Juhdis thanks this is very good advice. Unfortunately I took them back and swapped for a pair of PNS stretch in a 31 - which I have been wearing for a couple days and they are way too big now ;(((

 

Although they have a pretty noticeable twist in the leg beneath the knee so the denim warps around my leg which I dont like at all, do you think this is enough for a retail APC store to return them? I still have the receipt - want to swap them back to the 30 PNS haha

 

Anyway all works out somehow.

post #13527 of 13614
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Originally Posted by dimanchey View Post
 

@cutemelon  and @Juhdis thanks this is very good advice. Unfortunately I took them back and swapped for a pair of PNS stretch in a 31 - which I have been wearing for a couple days and they are way too big now ;(((

 

Although they have a pretty noticeable twist in the leg beneath the knee so the denim warps around my leg which I dont like at all, do you think this is enough for a retail APC store to return them? I still have the receipt - want to swap them back to the 30 PNS haha

 

Anyway all works out somehow.

don't have any experience with stretch. But as for your returns question, your best bet is to go to the store and try.

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I ordered a pair of New Standards in a 28 (my natural waist is about 30/31" and usual jeans size is 28), and they fit pretty perfect and look exactly how i want them to.  Problem is they feel like a normal pair of jeans in top block but just a tad tighter in the waist, although i can button up no problem.

 

Would I be right in assuming the waist won't really stretch out that much more if there is minimum stress, and if I wear a belt from day one?

 

Last pair I had were a 26 worn for a yr but the waist never really stretched as much as i expected, causing that unsightly warp of all buttons on the flies.  They also never really expanded in the seat area and after a soak I couldn't even get my legs through to stretch them back out.

 

I could try a 27 but the rise on the 28 is perfect and any shorter and I'd have to wear the jeans lower which isn't my thing these days.

post #13529 of 13614
I say if you're comfortable and happy with the fit, keep them and wear a belt and just enjoy. You could size down one but half the ownership period they'll be too tight and you'll be stretching them out, so I guess would you rather be uncomfortable in the beginning but happy in the end, or happy now and possibly less happy later?
post #13530 of 13614
if they fit perfect now then i'd just keep them

the legs won't stretch past a negligible amount
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