@Xman11815 perfect fit man.
my thighs stretched maybe 0.5" if even that. You are right thighs do not stretch
If it has a longer rise than the others then I'm definitely interested. Some people actually like to wear their jeans on the waist rather than sag them but APC's usual low rise can mean hell for the crotch if you do this.
Although it looks like a smarter style which would be better suited hemmed or with one roll for a cleaner look.
Quality is just okay. Probably not worth the price in terms of materials and such, but if you like the fit and look just buy. I buy a pretty good amount of APC outerwear because the fit is great for my body type.
Could you recommend other brand, with similar style, and better quality for outerwear?
I'm a big fan of Uniqlo but I don't think they compare in terms of quality or styling for outerwear, even though apc is deemed overpriced. The boxy fit is subjective and if we're talking about something like their classic bombers, I prefer a roomier look.
Somewhere like Cos is another option but I'm guessing you're not neccessarily on a highstreet budget?