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post #16 of 45
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Originally Posted by Aiwass View Post
he's taking something you better believe it!

or possible photoshop

You doubt he could do it simply because your dedication couldn't? Why hate?

Notice that there are FOUR YEARS between those photo sets. He posted his diet and training log every single day of those four years. That sort of dedication does not require drugs.
post #17 of 45
He's obviously very dedicated/obsessive to be able to maintain that type of routine for that long. Personally I think there is a body dysmorphia issue that comes along with becoming obsessed with working out - people get so into it and into "improving" that they make themselves into shapes that are objectively unattractive. This phenomenon can be seen in pretty much any area that people can obsess on - witness jeans you can't even button when they are new being "the right size", for example.

Personally, I think his 2003 physique looks more natural, but he should stay that size and then eat more normal foods so he's not so shredded looking. He looks really bloated and much too large for his frame now.

But it is obviously a matter of personal taste. I'd rather have useful, non-bulky muscle and maintain flexibility and the ability to move quickly, like a boxer's physique than look like a bubbly hulk.

If the point of working out is to look intimidating, I'd be much more scared of the ripped looking 2003 guy who looks like Bruce Lee than what that guy looks like now. If it's to get chicks, girls seem to consistently say that they prefer a more swimmer/basketball player type build (leaner, strong but not bulky) to someone who looks how he looks now.
post #18 of 45
I think he looks borderline juiced. The shoulders aren't really pool-ball round, and he has a fair amount of body fat. He's pretty jacked though, particularly so if he's natural!
post #19 of 45
this really grossed me out.
post #20 of 45
For those who say he is juicing, you can't possibly understand how much dedication it takes. Most people can't follow a strict program for a week. Try it for four years. Learn about training, cutting/bulking, and proper diet.
post #21 of 45
man this guy is juicing, he looks artifical, just big, just like when vince mcmahon use to juice, when some people juice you can tell, others you cant, im not saying that he dosent train but he has some "assistance"
post #22 of 45
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Originally Posted by evacuatingheaven View Post
this really grossed me out.

+1

Both picture sets are disgusting. He goes from grossly over-cut to an awkward meat-head.
post #23 of 45
LOL he doesn't not look like he juices. That's a lot of time and very strict dedication..that being said I do not think he looks good, his proportions are terrible: He needs MORE rear delts, more traps, way bigger lats, upper chest. His posture looks fucked. I have a 43" chest (cold) and my chest is smaller than his..it's my lats/thick back.
post #24 of 45
I think he should have stopped in early 04. His face is too boyish to be so large. For those that have done something similar, what 4 month period has most impressed you?

Did he track his tanning bed sessions as well? Looks like he quit in 8/6/03
post #25 of 45
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Originally Posted by Aiwass View Post
he's taking something you better believe it!





or possible photoshop
I agree with Aiwass 100%, this clown is a "Natural," as Skip Lacour and Ron Coleman.
It is sad that some people are so blind.
post #26 of 45
I think he's a small guy, so the muscle is making him look larger than he is. This is a fellow who measures his food to the microgram, so it's quite possible that he went through this transformation in 4 years.

Here's another:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBf7krmojtc

Drugs? Surgery? Or just more hard work and less shitty food choices?

lefty
post #27 of 45
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Originally Posted by lefty View Post
I think he's a small guy, so the muscle is making him look larger than he is. This is a fellow who measures his food to the microgram, so it's quite possible that he went through this transformation in 4 years.

Here's another:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBf7krmojtc

Drugs? Surgery? Or just more hard work and less shitty food choices?

lefty

Wow she lost 46.9% of her weight! Her transformation is, to me, so much more remarkable than the bloated guy.
post #28 of 45
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Originally Posted by edmond View Post
I agree with Aiwass 100%, this clown is a "Natural," as Skip Lacour and Ron Coleman.
It is sad that some people are so blind.

Dude, all that is is a clear example of how bulk/cut cycles work. You'll notice that in his skinny pictures he's well down into single digit bodyfat percentage, whereas in the pictures when he is big is bodyfat percentage is a lot higher, possible 15%. It's nothing abnormal for someone to look a lot skinnier during a cut cycle. In other words, in the pictures where the guy appears to have blown up, he's just bulking and has a lot more fat on his frame, in addition to some added muscle.

It seems pretty obvious that the guys who think this guy is juicing have no experience with bulk/cut cycles or serious bodybuilding.
post #29 of 45
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Originally Posted by odoreater View Post

It seems pretty obvious that the guys who think this guy is juicing have no experience with bulk/cut cycles or serious bodybuilding.

Not to mention four years between those sets of pics! That's a long time...
post #30 of 45
If you didn't look like that after four years of intelligent training (assuming size is your goal), you're not trying.

lefty
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