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http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/alberta/Hell+Residents+angry+RCMP+seize+guns+from+High+River+homes+with+video/8588851/story.html
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HIGH RIVER — RCMP revealed Thursday that officers have seized a “substantial amount” of firearms from homes in the evacuated town of High River.

“We just want to make sure that all of those things are in a spot that we control, simply because of what they are,” said Sgt. Brian Topham.

“People have a significant amount of money invested in firearms ... so we put them in a place that we control and that they’re safe.”

That news didn’t sit well with a crowd of frustrated residents who had planned to breach a police checkpoint northwest of the town as an evacuation order stretched into its eighth day.

“I find that absolutely incredible that they have the right to go into a person’s belongings out of their home,” said resident Brenda Lackey, after learning Mounties have been taking residents’ guns. “When people find out about this there’s going to be untold hell to pay.”

Subsequent investigations show that the vast majority of homes had their doors kicked in by the Mounties...after the flooding has passed but the town was still under evacuation orders...to search for firearms to confiscate.

http://www.torontosun.com/2014/04/11/kicking-down-doors-of-high-river-gun-controversy
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So how come Mounties felt the need to kick in nearly 1,300 doors after June 24, nearly double the number (674) they had kicked down in the first four days of flooding? The logical answer is that they had stopped looking for stranded survivors and had, instead, started focusing on disarming the civilian population.

Indeed, new documents just uncovered by Young show that Mounties kept seizing guns up until July 10, nearly three full weeks after the flood and more than two weeks after the first evacuees had been given the all-clear to return to their homes.

This information makes a mockery of the Mounties’ insistence that they only took firearms they encountered by coincidence. They claimed to take only those firearms they noticed “in plain sight” while they were in homes searching for survivors.

But nearly half the guns they seized, they seized on their second trip to most homes after they had been in them once already and determined there were no survivors cowering inside.

And as Young discovered last week in police records, Mounties also confiscated several pellet guns, bows and arrows, crossbows, “musket powder” and “2 bayonets.”

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Want more proof of Mountie misbehaviour?

According to residents, members kicked in doors in neighbourhoods that had no flood damage: no water in the basement; no power, gas or sewer outages. There was no chance people needed rescuing in those homes. But doors were kicked down and guns take anyway.
post #782 of 6095

Is it legal for Canadians to own guns?

post #783 of 6095
I call BS on that one. Everyone knows Canadians don't lock their doors.
post #784 of 6095
Don't the Mounties have rampant institutional sexism to propagate or something? I'm surprised they took time away from sexually harassing female officers to kick down people's vacated homes for guns.
post #785 of 6095

The Atlantic is on the case:
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In South Carolina, a 46-year-old black woman has been arrested for letting her daughter play in a nearby park while trying to earn a living.

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/07/arrested-for-letting-a-9-year-old-play-at-the-park-alone/374436/
post #786 of 6095
Are you suggesting racism is at work here?
post #787 of 6095
If it's illegal for a 9-year old to play by herself outside, my parents must have been Public Enemy #1 when I was a child. I recall almost every day in the summer telling my parents in the morning that I'm going out to play and I'll be back by dinner.
post #788 of 6095
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Originally Posted by Nil View Post

If it's illegal for a 9-year old to play by herself outside, my parents must have been Public Enemy #1 when I was a child. I recall almost every day in the summer telling my parents in the morning that I'm going out to play and I'll be back by dinner.

Same. Riding my bike to the general store half a mile away to buy candy, exploring the woods for hours, just doing general whatever the hell I wanted pretty much.

Different times, for many different reasons...
post #789 of 6095
I was talking to my in-laws about this issue. They're convinced that the reason kids don't get unstructured play time is because "things are so dangerous today." No amount of evidence will convince them otherwise; they're solid nightly news watchers so anecdotes rule.

I'm pretty sure that I'm going to drive them insane (possibly literally) when we have kids, because I'm not into that helicopter shit.
post #790 of 6095
Didn't they watch the news when your wife was growing up?
post #791 of 6095
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

Didn't they watch the news when your wife was growing up?

Oh yes. They were on the first wave of helicopter parents. I think they just have extremely selective memory about how paranoid they've always been.

Definitely had consequences in how the wife grew up.
post #792 of 6095
Not that I actually approve of helicopter parenting, but saying that it's wrong because kids are safer today is a specious argument. It's like the folks who say we should empty the jails because crime rates are lower, coincidentially since we started locking up more people...
post #793 of 6095
If you need eight shots to kill a dog, you shouldn't be allowed to have a gun.
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The woman, Brittany Preston, said at the time of the shooting, last November, that cops shot her dog at least eight times.
http://reason.com/blog/2014/07/17/cop-caught-on-dash-cam-i-dont-do-dogs-il
post #794 of 6095
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

Not that I actually approve of helicopter parenting, but saying that it's wrong because kids are safer today is a specious argument. It's like the folks who say we should empty the jails because crime rates are lower, coincidentially since we started locking up more people...

I don't know that kids are safer today. They were never really in much danger in the first place.
post #795 of 6095
Crimes, accidents, pretty much every measure.

Here's an example:
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Fewer kids and teenagers have died from accidents over the past decade, according to a new report from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The CDC says death rates from children and adolescents between the ages of 0 and 19 have dropped 30 percent between 2000 and 2009. One big reason was a 41 percent decline in traffic fatalities, which annually account for half or more of kids' deaths caused by accidents. Childhood deaths from drowning, fires and falls also plummeted.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cdc-kids-accidental-death-rates-down-30-but-we-can-do-more/
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