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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

You would think they would record who voted in a primary and which one. That just seems like common sense, but then again so does requiring a photo id to prove your identity.

Why would you want a record of who you voted for hanging around?
Edited by Bhowie - 6/27/14 at 2:01pm
post #692 of 6073
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Originally Posted by Bhowie View Post

Why would you want a rcotd of who you voted for hanging around?

So we know whose backs to put up against the wall when the revolution comes.
post #693 of 6073
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Originally Posted by Bhowie View Post

Why would you want a record of who you voted for hanging around?

I don't, but they are supposed to record which primary you voted in (not necessarily the candidate). This is to prevent people from voting in multiple primaries. It isn't any different than registering with a party to vote in a closed primary.
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Originally Posted by Harold falcon View Post

So we know whose backs to put up against the wall when the revolution comes.

I'm afraid it won't be after the revolution...
post #694 of 6073
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

I don't, but they are supposed to record which primary you voted in (not necessarily the candidate). This is to prevent people from voting in multiple primaries. It isn't any different than registering with a party to vote in a closed primary.

Simply recording that you had voted would accomplish the same thing.
post #695 of 6073
Salt Lake police shooting sparks large protest for victim: a dog named Geist

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/06/29/salt-lake-police-shooting-sparks-large-protest-for-victim-dog-named-geist/?cmpid=edpick&google_editors_picks=true



Shooting people is one thing, But shooting man's best friend is another!
post #696 of 6073
Idaho deputies confront, handcuff man over Nickelback — but not because he’s a fan

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/06/26/idaho-deputies-confront-handcuff-man-over-nickelback-but-not-because-hes-a-fan/
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Bizarre story from Idaho, where two men were confronted by two deputies at a gas station, apparently because one deputy misheard a complaint about the band Nickelback as “nickel sack,” which he interpreted to be some sort of reference to marijuana.

Note that the men repeatedly give the deputies permission to search their car. (Generally not advisable, even if you’re innocent.) Note, too, that it is the deputies who escalate the situation by first using profanity, then refusing to let the men go, even after it’s clear that they had done nothing wrong. The two men seem pretty polite, at least until the deputies arrest one of them.

At one point, one deputy dismisses the possibility that he misheard the phrase “nickel sack” as “a bulls— story.” Given that the two men were never charged, which means the police never found any drugs, it seems pretty clear that is exactly what happened. Finally, it isn’t captured on the video, but the audio seems to indicate that one of the deputies drew his gun just before pulling one of the men from the car and handcuffing him. Again, all of this for nothing more than an alleged uttering of the phrase “nickel sack.”

The deputies are from the Kootenai County Sheriff’s Office. According to the Coeur d’Alene Press, sheriff’s department spokesman Lt. Stu Miller said the incident is “being internally investigated.” He added, “We take this type of thing very seriously and we tell our people all the time to do their job as though someone is always watching, and they are always watching.”

That said, the sheriff’s department is refusing to release the deputies’ names. Of course, if they’d found a bunch of pot, their names would probably be in a press release, along with the names of the two men they confronted. Miller explained to the Press, “Obviously our deputies are human — they’re not infallible. But I’ve got to make sure the deputies are treated fairly in this as well.”
post #697 of 6073
Nickelback causes all sorts of problems, not sure why they are not considered a terrorist organization:

https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/big-league-stew/ryan-howard-accused-of-liking-nickelback--might-actually-like-nickelback-180207698.html

Of all the things that are troubling about Philadelphia Phillies first baseman Ryan Howard, and there are many — see his .240 batting average over the past three seasons, along with his 38 homers and his $65 million salary in that same timespan — this new revelation could be most troubling.

Howard might very well be a Nickelback fan.

Creative taunters at Atlanta's Turner Field held up a sign at Tuesday night's Phillies-Braves game that read, "Ryan Howard listens to Nickelback," which is up there with the worst insults you can hurl at a person. You can talk about someone's mama. Or their sister even. You can say they smell. But accusing a person of liking Nickelback is below the belt.

Here's where things get much worse. When asked by MLB.com's Todd Zolecki about the sign after the game, Howard didn't deny being a fan of the cringeworthy Canadian rock band. C'mon, Ryan. Deny! Deny! Deny! Even if you had a regrettable weekend nine years ago when "Photograph" was your jam, you deny that nonsense. Instead, he said:

"Is it bad to listen to Nickelback? ... I mean, I’m not afraid to say that I diversify my musical portfolio. I didn’t know they could see or hear what … how do they know I listen to Nickelback? I listen to everything. I don’t know if there’s a specific song by Nickelback (I listen to).”
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I feel a lot better knowing the university is investigating that cop to see if he had any racial motivations there. But I won't know for sure what to think until Obama chimes in.
post #700 of 6073
That actually is the law in AZ. It's a "shall produce ID upon request " state. Dumb entitled bint. Change the law in your stupid fucking state if you don't want to be harassed.
post #701 of 6073
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Originally Posted by Harold falcon View Post

That actually is the law in AZ. It's a "shall produce ID upon request " state. Dumb entitled bint. Change the law in your stupid fucking state if you don't want to be harassed.
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13-2412. Refusing to provide truthful name when lawfully detained; classification

A. It is unlawful for a person, after being advised that the person's refusal to answer is unlawful, to fail or refuse to state the person's true full name on request of a peace officer who has lawfully detained the person based on reasonable suspicion that the person has committed, is committing or is about to commit a crime. A person detained under this section shall state the person's true full name, but shall not be compelled to answer any other inquiry of a peace officer.

B. A person who violates this section is guilty of a class 2 misdemeanor.
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28-1595. Failure to stop or provide driver license or evidence of identity; violation; classification

A. The operator of a motor vehicle who knowingly fails or refuses to bring the operator's motor vehicle to a stop after being given a visual or audible signal or instruction by a peace officer or duly authorized agent of a traffic enforcement agency is guilty of a class 2 misdemeanor.

B. After stopping as required by subsection A of this section, the operator of a motor vehicle who fails or refuses to exhibit the operator's driver license as required by section 28-3169 or a driver who is not licensed and who fails or refuses to provide evidence of the driver's identity on request is guilty of a class 2 misdemeanor. The evidence of identity that is presented shall contain all of the following information:

1. The driver's full name.

2. The driver's date of birth.

3. The driver's residence address.

4. A brief physical description of the driver, including the driver's sex, weight, height and eye and hair color.

5. The driver's signature.

C. A person other than the driver of a motor vehicle who fails or refuses to provide evidence of the person's identity to a peace officer or a duly authorized agent of a traffic enforcement agency on request, when such officer or agent has reasonable cause to believe the person has committed a violation of this title, is guilty of a class 2 misdemeanor.

D. A peace officer or duly authorized agent of a traffic enforcement agency may give the signal or instruction required by subsection A of this section by hand, emergency light, voice, whistle or siren.

E. A person shall not be convicted of a violation of subsection B of this section if the person provided evidence of identity required by subsection B, paragraphs 1 through 5 of this section and produces to the court a legible driver license or an authorized duplicate of the license that is issued to the person and that was valid at the time the violation of subsection B of this section occurred.

Seems to me you have to be detained due to the cop having reasonable cause to believe you're committing or about to commit a crime. One could argue her walking down the middle of the street met this hurdle I suppose but Joe Citizen minding his own business should be able to tell the cop to fuck off.
post #702 of 6073
They can always invent reasonable suspicion. They actually teach them to do it.

Don't wanna get harassed, change the fucking law in your dumb fucking state.

I'm sorry, I don't have any sympathy for dumb fucking Arizona if they pass a stupid goddamn law like that.
post #703 of 6073
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Research Interests

Contemproary Rhetorical Theory, Race Critical Theory, Rhetorics of Race & Culture, Composition, Visual and Material Culture Studies

https://webapp4.asu.edu/directory/person/1751324

This is the portrait she uses:



Anyway, she was way out of line. Of course the cop can ask you for ID. How many jaywalking tickets do you think they wrote to Joe Blow before they figured that one out?
post #704 of 6073
Cops can demand ID in shitty states like Arizona. Those of us in Pennsylvania value our rights to freedom from harassment a little more.
post #705 of 6073
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Originally Posted by Harold falcon View Post

Cops can demand ID in shitty states like Arizona. Those of us in Pennsylvania value our rights to freedom from harassment a little more.

Emphasis on little.
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