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post #5776 of 6095
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Originally Posted by Van Veen View Post

I'm wondering what would happen if a black off-duty police officer got shot by another officer ("he had a gun! how was I supposed to know he was a police officer?")

 

Happened over here a couple months ago

 

 

 

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Black off duty cop was trying to apprehend the shooter Malik Ford and his "video crew" and was shot and killed by a white cop.  Grand jury declined to press charges 

 

 

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post #5777 of 6095
Black officer shot an armed black man in Charlotte.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/21/at-least-12-charlotte-cops-injured-in-protests-following-officer-involved-death-black-man.html
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CHARLOTTE, N.C. – Authorities used tear gas to disperse protesters, officers were injured and a highway was shut down during protests in Charlotte, North Carolina, over the fatal shooting of a black man by police who said he was armed and posed a threat.

The protests broke out Tuesday after 43-year-old Keith Lamont Scott was fatally shot by a black officer at an apartment complex on the city's northeast side. They continued into early Wednesday morning, when TV footage showed dozens of protesters on Interstate 85 apparently looting semi-trucks and setting their contents on fire on the highway.
post #5778 of 6095

Isn't North Carolina an open carry state?

post #5779 of 6095
According to the (fragmentary) accounts I've read he was tasered before he was shot, meaning it was during an extended confrontation. He wasn't sniped from a helicopter for having a pistol on his hip.
post #5780 of 6095
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

According to the (fragmentary) accounts I've read he was tasered before he was shot, meaning it was during an extended confrontation. He wasn't sniped from a helicopter for having a pistol on his hip.

 

Which case are you addressing? The guy with the broken down car or the guy waiting for his kid at the bus stop?

post #5781 of 6095
The one where open carry might potentially be an issue.

Also, I can't wait to find out how this guy was "disabled" as the media credulously reports.
post #5782 of 6095
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Originally Posted by Rumpelstiltskin View Post

Isn't North Carolina an open carry state?

It sounds like he wasn't open carrying, but had the gun in his hand. Witnesses are apparently corroborating the officers' statements about them repeatedly warning him to drop the gun.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/21/charlotte-police-warned-suspect-to-drop-gun-before-shooting-which-triggered-riots-hurt-16-officers.html
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Charlotte police warned 43-year-old Keith Lamont Scott again and again to drop his handgun before an officer shot and killed him, the police chief announced Wednesday morning, after riots damaged patrol cars and injured at least 16 officers.

Police Chief Kerr Putney said during a news conference that officers were searching for a suspect Tuesday when they saw Scott exit a vehicle with a handgun at an apartment complex on the city's northeast side. "The officers gave loud, clear verbal commands which were also heard by many of the witnesses. They were instructing the subject, once he got out of the vehicle, to drop the weapon... Mr. Scott exited his vehicle armed with a handgun as the officers continued to yell at him to drop it."

Putney said Officer Brentley Vinson shot Scott because the man posed a threat. Vinson is black, as was Scott.

A woman claiming to be Scott's daughter said in a video posted on Facebook that her father was unarmed and had a book, not a gun. Police say they found no book at the scene.
post #5783 of 6095
I like CNN.com's headline: "Gun, but no book found." Surprise!
post #5784 of 6095

I find it funny how the media and others more generally cling to and present some of the worst examples.  Like how the Treyvon Martin thing happened.  It sounds like the NC incident may be one where the cops were in the right, but the story fits the narrative so everyone just runs with it.

There are a lot of examples of cops abusing power or unnecessarily killing people, but when incidents incorrectly get blown up, it only hardens the resolve of the cop defenders and makes the middle less likely to believe the story (unless they don't read the story after the facts come out).

post #5785 of 6095
They push dubious cases on purpose because it creates "controversy" which translates into ratings and clicks.
post #5786 of 6095
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

I find it funny how the media and others more generally cling to and present some of the worst examples.  Like how the Treyvon Martin thing happened.  It sounds like the NC incident may be one where the cops were in the right, but the story fits the narrative so everyone just runs with it.


There are a lot of examples of cops abusing power or unnecessarily killing people, but when incidents incorrectly get blown up, it only hardens the resolve of the cop defenders and makes the middle less likely to believe the story (unless they don't read the story after the facts come out).

Their cause would be better served if they focused on those cases. I agree with them about police needing different scrutiny than other professions because of the unique position they're in to kill you as part of their job. The message has been clouded with false alarms, rioting and looting following some of those false alarms, and the murder of innocent police officers.
post #5787 of 6095
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post

You mean this stuff?


I was addicted to that stuff in 3rd grade
post #5788 of 6095
Which book? I bet it was "The Girl on the Train."
post #5789 of 6095
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Originally Posted by AldenPyle View Post

Which book? I bet it was "The Girl on the Train."

No, it was this book,
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post #5790 of 6095
While the dude obviously should've put the damn gun down, what seems to be missing is whether or not he pointed it at them. Since when is the mere presence of a gun reason to shoot?
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