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Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post

If my car breaks down in the middle of the road and I can't pull over, I'm going to be arrested?

They can arrest you. The point is that when they give you orders you should follow them, because you almost certainly don't know the extent of their authority as well as they do. Even if you know the law (and are sure about it!), you still don't know what they have seen or heard that might give them reason to suspect you, and thus authority to detain you, even if you're completely innocent.
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Originally Posted by rnoldh View Post

Caller said.: "There was a guy running from it. He, like somebody was going to blow up. I think he's smoking something."

Why did the caller think Crutcher had been smoking something?

And what does "He,like somebody going to blow up" mean?

It's incredible that this seems to be mentioned basically nowhere in the MSM. The 911 callers reported that the vehicle was left in the middle of the road with its engine running and the driver's door open.

A minor detail so I can see why CNN doesn't bother to mention it while trying to stoke outrage.

ETA: it seems to have made its way into a few stories online.
post #5762 of 6095
^ Fair enough, I just didn't know it was an arrestable offense
post #5763 of 6095
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post


Presumably it means he was high or drunk and belligerent. Might explain why he wasn't cooperating with the cops.
You still don't seem to appreciate that almost all of the various things that will make your car not go anymore don't make it stop immediately, and certainly don't make it stop in a way that blocks both lanes of traffic on a highway. Try going up to 55 and letting off the gas (or putting it into neutral if you can). How far do you roll before you stop? (A: a long ways).

 

Highway?  According to the radio chatter the address was 36th Street North just west of Lewis Avenue so I doubt the speed limit was 55 mph.

 

For many people the first impulse is not to pull over but to try to keep the car moving.  I've helped push broken down cars out of the road in the past and I've never felt that I needed a gun to protect myself.  At what precise moment was the officer's life in danger?

post #5764 of 6095
I was going by what I'd seen in the helicopter video, where the area looks remote, but in the last few frames it does look like it's near an intersection.

Pulling it up on google maps indicates that the speed limit is 45, or at least it was in January.

I'm not saying it's impossible to end up stopped in the middle of the road, I said it was unlikely to be anything but stupid or suspicious [as it turns out to have been].
post #5765 of 6095
I've changed my view on all this. We should recognize that police, and police unions in particular, are committed to doing their duty and protecting all citizens -- even those they dislike or whose views they disagree with.
Unless they are feeling butthurt, of course.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/sep/18/miami-dolphins-players-protest-police-union-nfl
post #5766 of 6095
Passed a fender bender in a turning lane today. The idiots parked their cars in the lane and were just standing around in the road. Hopefully the cops were on the way -- I felt like shooting them myself.
post #5767 of 6095
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

Passed a fender bender in a turning lane today. The idiots parked their cars in the lane and were just standing around in the road. Hopefully the cops were on the way -- I felt like shooting them myself.

Been there many times, but it illustrates a point a little bit relevant to the preceding discussion.
People are idiots. They behave in stupid ways that can appear senseless to others. Usually it's not because they're dangerous and secretly armed, but just because they're idiots.
(Whether acting like an idiot should be a capital offense in some circumstances is, of course, a different conversation . . .)
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Angel dust
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Originally Posted by AldenPyle View Post

Angel dust

Is Angel Dust different than PCP?
post #5770 of 6095
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post

Been there many times, but it illustrates a point a little bit relevant to the preceding discussion.
People are idiots. They behave in stupid ways that can appear senseless to others. Usually it's not because they're dangerous and secretly armed, but just because they're idiots.
(Whether acting like an idiot should be a capital offense in some circumstances is, of course, a different conversation . . .)

Don't disagree. I've said since the beginning that could be either stupid or suspicious, but the point wasn't shoot first and ask questions later. The post was in response to the "why were the cops hasslin' him for breaking down" line, and my point was just that police intervention in a situation like that is both universally accepted and rational under the circumstances.
post #5771 of 6095
Not according to Starsky and Hutch
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Originally Posted by rnoldh View Post

Is Angel Dust different than PCP?
post #5772 of 6095
You mean this stuff?

post #5773 of 6095
Thread Starter 
I'm wondering what would happen if a black off-duty police officer got shot by another officer ("he had a gun! how was I supposed to know he was a police officer?")
post #5774 of 6095
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Originally Posted by Van Veen View Post

I'm wondering what would happen if a black off-duty police officer got shot by another officer ("he had a gun! how was I supposed to know he was a police officer?")

What happens is the shooting officer becomes a schoolteacher.
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