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It depends on how you define culture. Language, religion, social customs, what most people would think of as defining culture, are all basically gone. African names (or often just vaguely African-sounding names) that are in vogue today have no continuity to Africa and are a modern contrivance originating in the 1960s, likewise with Islam, Muslim names, Egyptian and Carthaginian names and symbols and imagery. The red, black, and green flag dates to the 20th century, etc. Even aspects of African culture that have survived are a medley that formed in America, rather than originating with any specific ethnic group in Africa. As people are fond of saying, Africa's a continent, not a country. Even West Africa where most black Americans originated is very diverse.

So, for what it's worth, I agree with Jack.
post #5612 of 6095
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Originally Posted by Rumpelstiltskin View Post

texas_jack is not as clueless as birdman or wojt so why don't you tell us why he is wrong...on both parts

Birdman clueless? Not even close.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Birdman clueless? Not even close.

Not that Birdman


This one

post #5614 of 6095
Okay, that makes more sense.
post #5615 of 6095
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Originally Posted by texas_jack View Post

Just because white racism caused a problem doesn't mean that anyone expects white people to fix it. I think you'll find the history of black people in america is fixing things in spite of white people's influence.

Okay, can you clarify your position here? When I asked, you said racism causes a black teenager to get pregnant. So if I understand you correctly, black teenagers don't have sex for the same reason all humans and animals do, as a result of a basic biological survival mechanism, but they have sex because of...racism?

Does this apply to everything else as well? Can you name anything that a black human being might do in America that would cause you to place the responsibility on them for that action?

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Originally Posted by Rumpelstiltskin View Post

You missed my point that whatever YOU think we have moved past clearly hasn't worked.  

Official American policies against Native Americans began in the 1700s. By all metrics that I have seen NA's have higher rates of poverty, higher rates of substance abuse, higher rates of suicide, higher rates of unemployment as well as lower rates of high school graduation and lower rates of college graduation than any other ethnic group in America.

Native Hawaiians are another group that according to metrics do far below other ethnic groups in America and their people were only overthown a little over 100 years ago.

As far as the blacks are concerned, perhaps the wrongs (to put it lightly) of about 500 hundred years or so cannot be entirely cleaned up in my older sister's lifetime (she turned 50 last year). 

But again, this assumes that slavery or more recent racial discrimination is the cause of of the majority of problems today. It also assumes there are no differences in culture from one group to the next.

The cause of the problem should have far less influence on this discussion than you think. The government can't fix it. Whether racism is a large or small part of the problem, the change will still have to come from within black communities. Racism doesn't cause epidemic levels of murder in black communities. Neither does poverty, otherwise we'd see somewhat similar crime rates in other poor communities, but we don't see anything that even approaches a fraction of the crime rate in poor black neighborhoods.

The only political solution to the problem is acknowledging that the government can't fix it, and claiming to be a victim or telling others they're not responsible for their actions doesn't lift people out of poverty, but it perpetuates it.
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Not that Birdman


This one

 

 

Speaking of which, where is our legal falcon?

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Obviously the dash-cam video needs to be put into perspective and full context.
post #5619 of 6095
This is why statistics based solely on police reports don't work. (But sadly there are little other ways of getting statistics)
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Obviously the dash-cam video needs to be put into perspective and full context.

Well, yeah.
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Dashcam video showed McDonald strutting around brandishing a knife he'd just used to slash the tires of a police cruiser. He was shot while turning towards officers as they approached."

Doesn't have the same ring to it as:
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[Dashcam video] showed McDonald walking away from police as he held a 4-inch knife, not lunging toward officers, as police had said.
post #5621 of 6095
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post


Speaking of which, where is our legal falcon?

He's in hibernation. Haven't even heard from him over text in a couple weeks.
post #5622 of 6095
The architect of the frivolous Zimmerman prosecution loses her reelection bid:

http://legalinsurrection.com/2016/08/prosecutor-of-george-zimmerman-loses-bid-for-re-election/
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Lol @ frivolous
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Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post

Lol @ frivolous

I have to agree with 'Turk on that characterization.
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