Originally Posted by texas_jack
Just because white racism caused a problem doesn't mean that anyone expects white people to fix it. I think you'll find the history of black people in america is fixing things in spite of white people's influence.
Okay, can you clarify your position here? When I asked, you said racism causes a black teenager to get pregnant. So if I understand you correctly, black teenagers don't have sex for the same reason all humans and animals do, as a result of a basic biological survival mechanism, but they have sex because of...racism?
Does this apply to everything else as well? Can you name anything
that a black human being might do in America that would cause you to place the responsibility on them for that action?
Originally Posted by Rumpelstiltskin
You missed my point that whatever YOU think we have moved past clearly hasn't worked.
Official American policies against Native Americans began in the 1700s. By all metrics that I have seen NA's have higher rates of poverty, higher rates of substance abuse, higher rates of suicide, higher rates of unemployment as well as lower rates of high school graduation and lower rates of college graduation than any other ethnic group in America.
Native Hawaiians are another group that according to metrics do far below other ethnic groups in America and their people were only overthown a little over 100 years ago.
As far as the blacks are concerned, perhaps the wrongs (to put it lightly) of about 500 hundred years or so cannot be entirely cleaned up in my older sister's lifetime (she turned 50 last year).
But again, this assumes that slavery or more recent racial discrimination is the cause of of the majority of problems today. It also assumes there are no differences in culture from one group to the next.
The cause of the problem should have far less influence on this discussion than you think. The government can't fix it. Whether racism is a large or small part of the problem, the change will still have to come from within black communities. Racism doesn't cause epidemic levels of murder in black communities. Neither does poverty, otherwise we'd see somewhat similar crime rates in other poor communities, but we don't see anything that even approaches a fraction of the crime rate in poor black neighborhoods.
The only political solution to the problem is acknowledging that the government can't fix it, and claiming to be a victim or telling others they're not responsible for their actions doesn't lift people out of poverty, but it perpetuates it.