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This is a nifty argument except it can't be applied to black americans since we didn't bring any culture here, or at least what we did was erased. Black culture is pure American culture. We are perhaps the most American of Americans.

Agreed, if you mean African American culture ( versus non-USA Black culture ).

I'm sure that the Nigerians that I know would say they are part of, and have been raised in a Black culture ( as it applies to them ), but I've yet to hear one of them say he is an African American.

AAMOF, as I've said, Nigerians in the US are very successful as to education levels, income, and family cohesiveness.

I don't have time to check it, but I'm pretty sure that most sizable homogenous Black immigrant groups like Jamaicans are relatively successful in the US, and certainly more so than African Americans.

But groups like Ethiopians, and Somalians which are much smaller, struggle a lot and are not as successful as Nigerians, and probably African Americans. This could have to do with the legal immigrant experience versus a forced refugee experience.

I guess this points out that the "Black outcome" in the US is more than just a function of skin color. What advantages do Nigerians have over African Americans that leads to better outcomes? What disadvantages do African Americans have that Nigerians do not that leads to lesser outcomes? I'm sure there has been much study about this, and I'll look it up later.
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Lulz. Amazing how even a toss-away comment about Obama will get such action.
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Lulz. Amazing how even a toss-away comment about Obama will get such action.

Whether you were serious about it or not, people certainly make that attack. It's coming up against with Hillary this year, with Trump saying he'll be the 'candidate for coal miners" whatever that means.
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Whether you were serious about it or not, people certainly make that attack. It's coming up against with Hillary this year, with Trump saying he'll be the 'candidate for coal miners" whatever that means.

People really take anything Trump says seriously? I think some folks are just overly protective of Obama, I mean, when do you see NoVa post in this thread (I think he gets a notification when I post anything about Obama.) Good thing I'm a racist.
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Agreed, if you mean African American culture ( versus non-USA Black culture ).

I'm sure that the Nigerians that I know would say they are part of, and have been raised in a Black culture ( as it applies to them ), but I've yet to hear one of them say he is an African American.

AAMOF, as I've said, Nigerians in the US are very successful as to education levels, income, and family cohesiveness.

I don't have time to check it, but I'm pretty sure that most sizable homogenous Black immigrant groups like Jamaicans are relatively successful in the US, and certainly more so than African Americans.

But groups like Ethiopians, and Somalians which are much smaller, struggle a lot and are not as successful as Nigerians, and probably African Americans. This could have to do with the legal immigrant experience versus a forced refugee experience.

I guess this points out that the "Black outcome" in the US is more than just a function of skin color. What advantages do Nigerians have over African Americans that leads to better outcomes? What disadvantages do African Americans have that Nigerians do not that leads to lesser outcomes? I'm sure there has been much study about this, and I'll look it up later.

Nigerians are just living large off the money from those phishing emails.
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Like princes
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yea he should have, anyway if you're sick and tired of your wife that seems like a good plan
http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2016/03/02/kansas-cops-shoot-woman-dead/
yea but is bad though, asian were racially discriminated agianst and now they are richer than whites in the USA, also they started with little to nothing in comparison with whites. Ofc it's not that easy since you can easily make case that black people were at bigger disadvantage but still cultural context matters. Usually asians are less criminal than even indignous populations(immigrants have usually on avg higher criminality than natives) -also in countries in Europe. For example in Germany Chinese do less of virtually every crime than average immigrant of any country and even less crime than germans themselves. And on avg they focus alot on work and education.

This is a nifty argument except it can't be applied to black americans since we didn't bring any culture here, or at least what we did was erased. Black culture is pure American culture. We are perhaps the most American of Americans.

Well yea but there are some societal diffrences between black and white people communities that seem to me are likely not a result of nowadays systemic racism but historical systemic racism that was negative contributing factor to shaping black communities back in the day. So they have problems now because state sanctioned discrimination in the past. What's your perspective on this?

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He might be referring to the Chinamen who worked out west during Gold Rush and Trans Continental railroad building times. But overall, it's a pretty specious at best analogy considering those Chinese born workers came voluntarily and were never slaves.

Even then, that's a trivial fraction of the overall number of Chinese-Americans. If we had brought up 10 million Chinese laborers and then isolated and mistreated them for 300 years, maybe it would be a good analogy.

yes that was what i meant and I noted that it is not a perfect analogy to black people because of other factors butthere could be a case made this would could happen(asian americans overtaking whites economically) in a state that discriminates against minorities but that's up for a debate i guess
Edited by wojt - 8/26/16 at 10:21am
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good gawd!

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This is a nifty argument except it can't be applied to black americans since we didn't bring any culture here, or at least what we did was erased. Black culture is pure American culture. We are perhaps the most American of Americans.
This is ridiculous
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This is ridiculous

I'm exaggerating a little bit but not much.
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I'm exaggerating a little bit but not much.

First it's the age thing, and now this. Is there anything you people don't exaggerate about?
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I'm exaggerating a little bit but not much.

No you are completely wrong on both points.
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No you are completely wrong on both points.

texas_jack is not as clueless as birdman or wojt so why don't you tell us why he is wrong...on both parts
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Woop..that was to LD's Nigerian prince joke.
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