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post #5071 of 6066
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

The former-cop and soldier carry permit instructor I had claims it is because of adrenaline.  He claimed something like 80-90% of cops miss the first shot (and why any civilian will miss).  I find it suspect though.  I think it is a lack of training - that twice a year at the range isn't sufficient.

I can see adrenaline meaning not a head shot...which is no doubt why center mass is always trained too...but we're talking a "miss" of feet here, not inches.
post #5072 of 6066
Amazing. They can't even kill properly.
post #5073 of 6066
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

I can see adrenaline meaning not a head shot...which is no doubt why center mass is always trained too...but we're talking a "miss" of feet here, not inches.

Just curious - has there been any credible disclosure or analysis of things like (1) was it some sort of ricochet or a direct hit; and/or (2) was the officer's position relative to the "fat boy" and "black boy" such that a shot unsuccessfully targeting the autistic guy might reasonably be expected to strike the therapist (e.g., could one draw a direct line through their respective positions vs. them being at the points of a triangle)?
post #5074 of 6066
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post

Just curious - has there been any credible disclosure or analysis of things like (1) was it some sort of ricochet or a direct hit; and/or (2) was the officer's position relative to the "fat boy" and "black boy" such that a shot unsuccessfully targeting the autistic guy might reasonably be expected to strike the therapist (e.g., could one draw a direct line through their respective positions vs. them being at the points of a triangle)?

If there was I'm sure someone we know would have posted it. wink.gif
post #5075 of 6066
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post

Just curious - has there been any credible disclosure or analysis of things like (1) was it some sort of ricochet or a direct hit; and/or (2) was the officer's position relative to the "fat boy" and "black boy" such that a shot unsuccessfully targeting the autistic guy might reasonably be expected to strike the therapist (e.g., could one draw a direct line through their respective positions vs. them being at the points of a triangle)?

Or if there was, and it supported the cops' story, would the media even bother to tell us?
post #5076 of 6066
There we go.
post #5077 of 6066
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

Or if there was, and it supported the cops' story, would the media even bother to tell us?

Probably not. Those dirty jews love to keep secrets.
post #5078 of 6066
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Originally Posted by Nil View Post

How the fuck do you miss your target 3 times (or 2, depending on if you buy the inept attempted murderer's story) when you're that close and have an AR-15 with optics? The autistic kid was wildly obese also, not like he's a small, moving target.

Harvey called this one earlier too. Gross incompetence.
post #5079 of 6066
Calm and compliant after being shot?

What a troll way to bait someone. So the cops can shoot you when you didn't do anything wrong, then claim you aren't compliant if you get upset and arrest you and it's fine?
post #5080 of 6066
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

It is not unaccountable but rather based on reams of data and the only divisions created are for those unwilling to acknowledge what the data clearly demonstrates...and that's on them, not the observation.

Yea verily! for as it is written: "the neck of the righteous man doth bend toward the yoke of collective guilt"

So mote it be, amirite?
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Calm and compliant after being shot?

What a troll way to bait someone. So the cops can shoot you when you didn't do anything wrong, then claim you aren't compliant if you get upset and arrest you and it's fine?

"Even after we started repeatedly tasing the suspect, he kept making small, sudden movements like he might be about to leap up and attack us. What could we do other than shoot him for everyone's safety?"
post #5082 of 6066
Pretty much.

He wasn't standing still and being compliant, we had to subdue him.

I mean, it's pretty foolproof though.
post #5083 of 6066
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Yea verily! for as it is written: "the neck of the righteous man doth bend toward the yoke of collective guilt"

So mote it be, amirite?

Who's talking about guilt, collective or otherwise? The data demonstrates quite clearly police treat blacks and whites deferentially. You're apparently okay with this? Or don't want it noticed as somehow the real responsibility is on people that notice this, per your prior posts?
post #5084 of 6066
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Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post

Calm and compliant after being shot?

What a troll way to bait someone. So the cops can shoot you when you didn't do anything wrong, then claim you aren't compliant if you get upset and arrest you and it's fine?

I was just pointing out the obvious reason the guy's demeanor as shown in the video might not have reflected how he was acting immediately before he was handcuffed.

And the question was "why did they handcuff him?" not whether what happened to him was fair.
post #5085 of 6066
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Who's talking about guilt, collective or otherwise? The data demonstrates quite clearly police treat blacks and whites deferentially. You're apparently okay with this? Or don't want it noticed as somehow the real responsibility is on people that notice this, per your prior posts?

You espouse "systemic racism" and then deny collective guilt?

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Data is inert. Ask a Marxist to diagnose your data and he'll give you a Marxist solution. Ask a feminist and she'll do likewise. We choose the critical lens that we apply to these types of problems and like any useful tool they ought be applied conscientiously and responsibly. I'm not big on kool-aid.
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