Originally Posted by lawyerdad
You don't care about being lied to by cops?
No, it isn't particularly relevant. Whether or not that media outlet was competent, sloppy, or dishonest isn't really the issue. You can add those facts back in and the police story still doesn't square with the facts that aren't
in dispute. Their conduct after shooting that guy is completely inconsistent with the story they've offered up. That's what's relevant. Whether or not the autistic kid (who was probably frightened by having cops inexplicably pointing guns at him and his therapist) was yelling doesn't change that. If his yelling reinforced the mistaken belief that he was armed and violent, then why didn't they cuff and arrest him rather than the victim they accidentally shot?
First of all, and I'm sure you know this, it's not the conduct after
the shoot that matters, but what happened before. I'll concede that it might indicate what they were thinking, if there were any strong inferences to be made. There aren't, though. On the other hand, there are recorded conversations between the cops prior to the shooting. Maybe they wanted to shoot the black guy all along and were just alibiing themselves ahead of time. You seemed to speculate that in the last case, so why not this one?
Your whole argument is just dubious speculation. The kid (kid?) is acting out because he's afraid of the cops, even though he's just run away from the group home, convinced someone to call 911 on him thinking that he's armed and suicidal, and is obviously
yelling at the therapist who had tracked him down? Then you say that the cops didn't handcuff the kid. Where do you get that from? The video after the shooting, short as it is, seems to show cops attending to both of them. And why would they handcuff the therapist? It's absolutely routine to handcuff everyone in confused situations like that. Just because they thought he was the one being threatened doesn't preclude him also being dangerous. And that's assuming he remained calm and compliant after being shot. As far as it taking 20 minutes for the ambulance, the only source for that seems to be the therapist himself, and he pretty obviously wasn't in a position to know for sure. He even qualifies the statement by saying something like "about" twenty minutes. I'm not even sure what this is supposed to mean -- do you suggest that the cops wouldn't have called for an ambulance if they'd shot him on purpose? How do you know there wasn't an accident or a mechanical failure or one of a million other reasons it might have taken longer than expected for the ambulance to arrive.
Also, if the story is a lie, what's the motive for shooting a completely innocent, compliant therapist? Lemme guess... systemic racism. They saw a black guy and just couldn't help themselves. You'd think they might have picked a better target, since the town is apparently 2/3 black.