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post #4891 of 6072
Who cares why they were there, no reason to shoot the dog. If you really, really feel threatened pepper spray will knock any dog flat on its ass.

You don't go to a kids birthday party and start blasting dogs, full stop.
post #4892 of 6072
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Originally Posted by NorCal View Post

Who cares why they were there, no reason to shoot the dog. If you really, really feel threatened pepper spray will knock any dog flat on its ass.

You don't go to a kids birthday party and start blasting dogs, full stop.

Definitely this. Or if you're scared of the dog hop your ass back onto the other side of the fence.
post #4893 of 6072
See, there's a perfectly good explanation. The cop is a hero and was trying to protect the black man. Just so happens the cop missed with his shot.

Give the black man that was shot $6,000,000, that will go a long way toward assuaging his pain. Give the autistic man $1,000,000, it's a sporty thing to do. And give the Officer a minor violation and a reprimand. All is well that ends well,

John Rivera, the president of the Dade County Police Benevolent Association, said this afternoon that Kinsey "did everything right," adding that the officer was trying to protect Kinsey.

"All of the officers felt that there was a firearm involved," and the officers at one point thought "the white male was reloading the firearm," Rivera said.

"They saw the while male almost on top of Mr. Kinsey, who had his hands up and who had his knees up, and to the officers, it looked like the white male was about to shoot Mr. Kinsey," Rivera said. "The officers all thought the individual had a firearm, not a toy truck."

He said the vantage point seen in the video is different from the perspective of the officers, who were farther back. Rivera said the officer "was trying to save the life of Mr. Kinsey and feels horrible that his aim missed and struck Mr. Kinsey."

"The officers were justified in their actions. They did everything that they could do and were human beings. And we had a human being miss his target and unfortunately strike Mr. Kinsey," Rivera said.

The officer involved in the shooting said in a statement released by the police union, "I took this job to save lives and help people. I did what I had to do in a split second to accomplish that and hate to hear others paint me as something I'm not."


http://abcnews.go.com/US/unarmed-man-hands-shot-cop-justification-lawyer/story?id=40770046

PS: You have to give the Police Union and defense lawyer guys some credit. Though it may be 100% BS, it's a nice tight little story that explains everything.
post #4894 of 6072
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Originally Posted by rnoldh View Post

See, there's a perfectly good explanation. The cop is a hero and was trying to protect the autistic man.

Give the black man that was shot $6,000,000, that will go a long way toward assuaging his pain. Give the autistic man $1,000,000, it's a sporty thing to do. And give the Officer a minor violation and a reprimand. All is well that ends well,

John Rivera, the president of the Dade County Police Benevolent Association, said this afternoon that Kinsey "did everything right," adding that the officer was trying to protect Kinsey.

"All of the officers felt that there was a firearm involved," and the officers at one point thought "the white male was reloading the firearm," Rivera said.

"They saw the while male almost on top of Mr. Kinsey, who had his hands up and who had his knees up, and to the officers, it looked like the white male was about to shoot Mr. Kinsey," Rivera said. "The officers all thought the individual had a firearm, not a toy truck."

He said the vantage point seen in the video is different from the perspective of the officers, who were farther back. Rivera said the officer "was trying to save the life of Mr. Kinsey and feels horrible that his aim missed and struck Mr. Kinsey."

"The officers were justified in their actions. They did everything that they could do and were human beings. And we had a human being miss his target and unfortunately strike Mr. Kinsey," Rivera said.

The officer involved in the shooting said in a statement released by the police union, "I took this job to save lives and help people. I did what I had to do in a split second to accomplish that and hate to hear others paint me as something I'm not."


http://abcnews.go.com/US/unarmed-man-hands-shot-cop-justification-lawyer/story?id=40770046

PS: You have to give the Police Union and defense lawyer guys some credit. Though it may be 100% BS, it's a nice tight little story that explains everything.
Generally speaking, that seems pretty plausible -- at least the broad strokes. Details will be shored up, of course. Undoubtedly all of the officers will be prepared to testify under oath that due to the angle of the sun, etc., etc., the toy truck was indistinguishable from a gun, and that for mysterious reasons the autistic kid engaged in movements that objectively mimicked the reloading of a gun, and of course nobody got jumpy, let their trigger finger slip, made a tragic assumption that had more to do with their preconceptions than what was actually happening in front of them, etc.
post #4895 of 6072

being honest? for $6 million i'd be tempted to eat that shit and praise the taste :confused:

post #4896 of 6072
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Originally Posted by double00 View Post

being honest? for $6 million i'd be tempted to eat that shit and praise the taste confused.gif

Well, yeah. But do you prosepctively take deal if it's this stellar marksman who will be attempting to shoot you non-fatally?
post #4897 of 6072

lol nope.

 

but after the fact i would personally hobble up to the podium, shake his hand and thank him for saving my life as i pin the commendation on his lapel. 

post #4898 of 6072
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post

Generally speaking, that seems pretty plausible -- at least the broad strokes.

Kinsey's Lawyer, Hilton Napoleon seems like he will play ball. Maybe go up to a $7,000,000 settlement, and a lot of forgiveness and understanding will set in. The autistic guy is truly innocent so I would give him a taste too. $1,000,000 is good As to the cop, once the movement people get a hold of the story, he will have to be punished. I see him losing his job and pleading to some sort of misdemeanour.

As an added bonus, the Democrats should have Kinsey address their convention next week. That is if he gets over his horrific injuries of course.

What if a black cop had shot a white man trying to help an Asian autistic man? How much legs would that story have had? Well, these are our times.
Edited by rnoldh - 7/21/16 at 5:28pm
post #4899 of 6072
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Originally Posted by Van Veen View Post

Everybody here understands that those aren't mutually exclusive, right?

 

please explain?

 

if the guy is an incompetent and a racist how come the black man ended up getting shot? 

post #4900 of 6072
The shooter cop is Hispanic ( maybe being made into a Whisp ).

If the cop wasn't such a bad shot, we could have had a Hispanic cop shooting an autistic white man, to save a black man. Supposedly!

Now, that would have been a story.

Here's a question for you gun guys. It doesn't seem that the cops were too far from the victim. And they probably had proficient weapons. And I assume they were shooting for center mass of the autistic guy. Yet they shot the black guy in the leg.

Were they really bad shots? Scared maybe? Asking too much of their weapons? What?
post #4901 of 6072
One of the links said they were 30 yards from the two of them. At 30 yards, with my cheap ass 10/22, and it's $40 scope, I could make a head shot with ease...and I'm not that great of a shot. Hand gun would be different story and I'd just be happy to hit center mass. The links mentioned a long gun with a scope so and I figure what the cop is shooting is far better than my cheap ass Ruger.
post #4902 of 6072
That police statement is embarassing
Watching the video is even more, the judgement on their part is so far off I don't think these idiots should wear uniforms. Wheter the guy pull the trigger by accident or missed the autistic doesn't matter that much both scenarios are equally damning. Iceing on the cake is those two brave cops hiding behind a squad car and scared shitless of two guys laying on a sidewalk with a toy truck.
post #4903 of 6072
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Originally Posted by rnoldh View Post



He said the vantage point seen in the video is different from the perspective of the officers, who were farther back. Rivera said the officer "was trying to save the life of Mr. Kinsey and feels horrible that his aim missed and struck Mr. Kinsey."
 

 

 

If it was safe enough for a person to record the event with a cel phone then why didn't the cops get closer in order to properly assess the situation?

post #4904 of 6072
I think it's about time we confiscate guns from cops. They are like little children running with knives.
post #4905 of 6072
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