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post #466 of 6081
You really shouldn't drive out with of state plates. You're just begging to get pulled over. I might be making this up since I am on my second bottle of Chianti but the vast majority of traffic stops are on cars with out if state plates.*


*May not apply in Alaska or Hawaii. Or may apply double there. Not sure.
post #467 of 6081
http://reason.com/blog/2013/12/19/drug-warriors-kidnap-and-sexually-assaul#comment
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Drug Warriors Kidnap and Sexually Assault a Woman After Getting Permission From a Dog

Jacob Sullum Dec. 19, 2013 12:40 pm

In a case eerily similar to David Eckert's humiliating ordeal at the hands of cops in Deming, New Mexico, a federal lawsuit charges U.S. Border Patrol agents with subjecting a U.S. citizen to six hours of degrading and fruitless body cavity searches based on an alleged alert by a drug-sniffing dog.
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First the agents strip-searched the plaintiff, examining her anus and vagina with a flashlight. Finding nothing, they took her to the University Medical Center of El Paso, where they forced her to take a laxative and produce a bowel movement in their presence. Again they found no evidence of contraband. At this point one of their accomplices, a physician named Christopher Cabanillas, ordered an X-ray, which likewise found nothing suspicious. Then the plaintiff "endured a forced gynecological exam" and rectal probing at the hands of another doctor, Michael Parsa. Still nothing. Finally, Cabanillas ordered a CT scan of the plaintiff's abdomen and pelvis, which found no sign of illegal drugs. "After the CT scan," the complaint says, "a CBP [Customs and Border Patrol] agent presented Ms. Doe with a choice: she could either sign a medical consent form, despite the fact that she had not consented, in which case CBP would pay for the cost of the searches; or if she refused to sign the consent form, she would be billed for the cost of the searches." She refused, and later the hospital sent her a bill for $5,000, apparently the going rate for sexual assault and gratuitous radiological bombardment.

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During the car ride to the Medical Center, Ms. Doe asked if the agents had awarrant. One of them responded that they did not need a warrant....

Medical Center policy L-13 on searches by hospital personnel does not permit an invasion of a person’s body for purposes of a search without either consent or a search warrant. However, in practice, the Medical Center staff and CBP agents routinely conduct invasive cavity searches without a warrant, consent or sufficient suspicion to justify the searches. When Ms. Doe expressed dismay about the unreasonable searches she suffered, a Medical Center employee responded that these procedures were routinely followed when an individual is brought in by CBP agents. The employee also told Ms. Doe that what happened to her was not invasive.

Yaaaay for state sanctioned rape.
post #468 of 6081

Not invasive, hmm? Then you won't mind if we repeat the procedure on you, now will you?

 

The AMA needs to take a strong stand against this, and doctors who perform these searches should lose their licenses.

post #469 of 6081
Is signing up for TSA precheck a good idea?

I have been waved through those lines before and it is great (significantly shorter, keep shoes, keep liquids and laptops in bag, etc) but you also have to let them take your fingerprints and associate them with whatever they dig up from your background check.
post #470 of 6081
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Originally Posted by otc View Post

Is signing up for TSA precheck a good idea?

I have been waved through those lines before and it is great (significantly shorter, keep shoes, keep liquids and laptops in bag, etc) but you also have to let them take your fingerprints and associate them with whatever they dig up from your background check.

Well worth it.
post #471 of 6081
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Originally Posted by Nil View Post

http://reason.com/blog/2013/12/19/drug-warriors-kidnap-and-sexually-assaul#comment
Yaaaay for state sanctioned rape.

People need to learn to call their lawyer.
post #472 of 6081
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Originally Posted by imatlas View Post

The AMA needs to take a strong stand against this, and doctors who perform these searches should lose their licenses.

Agreed. How medical professionals think they can get away with this is insane. I hope the hospital and every employee is sued into bankruptcy.
post #473 of 6081
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Originally Posted by harvey_birdman View Post

Agreed. How medical professionals think they can get away with this is insane. I hope the hospital and every employee is sued into bankruptcy.
Let's not lump us all in together now.
post #474 of 6081
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Originally Posted by taxgenius View Post

Well worth it.

I know it is well worth the $85 (and would sign up if I didn't have to be invited through a frequent flyer program...hopefully they open up signups outside of Indy soon).

More along the lines of...I don't really want to hand a law enforcement agency my fingerprints if I don't have to.

Of course now that I think about it, I was fingerprinted when I worked at the Fed...so I am probably already in the system frown.gif
post #475 of 6081
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Originally Posted by Nil View Post

http://reason.com/blog/2013/12/19/drug-warriors-kidnap-and-sexually-assaul#comment
Yaaaay for state sanctioned rape.

I'm a US citizen and after I prove that with my passport the border patrol has no further jurisdiction over me as far as I'm concerned. My answer to everything after showing my passport is no, fuck you and good bye. Get a warrant and be forewarned you will be sued personally and professionally.

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Originally Posted by otc View Post

Is signing up for TSA precheck a good idea?

I have been waved through those lines before and it is great (significantly shorter, keep shoes, keep liquids and laptops in bag, etc) but you also have to let them take your fingerprints and associate them with whatever they dig up from your background check.

No big deal. I have been fingerprinted for work reasons and because I carry a gun. If my life is simpler when I travel then all is well.

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Originally Posted by munchausen View Post

People need to learn to call their lawyer.

Sage advice. Get your lawyer on the cell phone and video everything.

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Originally Posted by harvey_birdman View Post

Agreed. How medical professionals think they can get away with this is insane. I hope the hospital and every employee is sued into bankruptcy.

When i say no I mean it. If a medical professional attempts to circumvent that for any reason at the very least you can expect a fight. If I have a gun expect to be looking down the barrel. Persistence in the matter would be unwise.
post #476 of 6081
Harvey will like this one:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/05/nyregion/unarmed-man-is-charged-with-wounding-bystanders-shot-by-police-near-times-square.html?_r=2&

Unarmed man reaching for wallet, gets shot at by police, police are bad shots and hit bystanders. Man charged with assault for women injured by police bullets.
post #477 of 6081
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

Harvey will like this one:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/05/nyregion/unarmed-man-is-charged-with-wounding-bystanders-shot-by-police-near-times-square.html?_r=2&

Unarmed man reaching for wallet, gets shot at by police, police are bad shots and hit bystanders. Man charged with assault for women injured by police bullets.

Yeah, they commit reckless acts and injure or kill bystanders and it's somebody else's fault no matter what the circumstances. I thought he was reaching for a gun is not a valid reason to open fire. These assholes just keep getting away with more and more bullshit that none of us could ever get away with.
post #478 of 6081
No citizen would ever be clear of criminal charges for shooting a bystander while a guy was reaching for a wallet. I don't know why cops are held to a lower standard than regular citizens.
post #479 of 6081
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Originally Posted by harvey_birdman View Post

No citizen would ever be clear of criminal charges for shooting a bystander while a guy was reaching for a wallet. I don't know why cops are held to a lower standard than regular citizens.

Because deep inside our hearts we know that they aren't the brightest.
post #480 of 6081
Not even deep in my heart, I know they are fucking retarded.
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