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Originally Posted by NorCal View Post

This.

Being mentally ill, is not a crime and police, as PUBLIC servants, need to be willing to deal with really annoying, recalcitrant crazy fucks without KILLING them.

What the fuck, in kindergarden we learn that it is not OK to respond to words with violence. So now, as adults paid to protect and serve, armed and trained to handle a variety of situations, somehow cops are given a pass to respond to words with lethal force?

Who cares if the guy was screaming a litany of insults, calling his daughter a whore, and threatening to skull fuck his mother? It in no way justifies using violence. Calling cops names is not a threat to public safety and those assholes need to just deal with it. Even if they have to stay there all night to diffuse the situation, well they ARE BEING FUCKING PAID TO DO SO!!!

Unless there is a true emergency, like a burning building full of people that the recalcitrant is blocking, there is no justification to use force just because you feel like it.

I pretty much agree with you on this one. And fortunately we live in the United States where, more often than not, I think the criminal justice system works reasonably well. No doubt that there are very few countries in the world where these cops would be standing trial for murder.

http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/local/Ex-Fullerton-cops-to-stand-trial-for-beating-death-187520341.html

Still, it's sad that a case has to be this obvious in order for justice to be done. Lots of "borderline" incidents out there never get looked at twice, which is the argument for sane and rational people like us to not put ourselves in a position where some borderline retarded cop can beat the shit out of us and get away with it.
post #47 of 6244
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Originally Posted by NorCal View Post

This.

Being mentally ill, is not a crime and police, as PUBLIC servants, need to be willing to deal with. . . them.

Police are trained to be in control of situations. "You WILL comply!"

That model doesn't really work if the person they are trying to control is seeing things or is delusional. The streets and prisons have become our modern psychiatric treatment centers.
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

One of the things that strikes me about that video (and I didn't watch the whole thing) is that the guy keeps saying he's going to comply but never actually does.

At 15:16 he complies with the initial officer by putting his hands on his knees and his feet out in front. The Officer then says "I'm going to start to fuck you up." He then starts beating on him. How exactly do you comply with that?
post #49 of 6244
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Originally Posted by NorCal View Post

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Originally Posted by BDC2823 View Post

Sure he may not have did everything perfectly to cower to perceived authority, and he's not all mentally there, but it in no way justified their actions. The guy is sitting down (at around the 15 minute mark is when the beating starts) and the cop threatens to beat his ass. The cop then harasses him some more, the guy stands up, and then he gets beat to death. Don't believe me...here's the surveillance footage. All 33 minutes of it.

Also note: This isn't one cop beating one man. There are plenty of cops there holding him down and they are still beating him to the point of death.


That video was one of the more disturbing things I've ever seen ( and I've seen Mr. Hands Video). That poor bastard was beat to death in cold blood. That was murder in the first degree and rather than go to prison, as they should, those assholes will get a fucking pension.

I'm sure the usual assholes will claim that he was "resisting" but putting a hand out to protect your face when you are being pushed into the ground is not resisting, it is instinct. No matter what anyone says, if someone, cop or otherwise, slams you to the ground and chokes you, you WILL put your hand out to break your fall and try to relieve pressure on your neck.

Those cops knew that guy, knew he was mentally feeble, knew that he was not violent, knew that he was unarmed, and spent the entire video trying to get a reaction out of him. About 20 min in lead asshole cop says he is "going to start beating his face in" all while the dude just sits there.

At no time in that video did the victim act violent or make any threats. He was begging for them to stop as they beat him to death.

Fucked. Up.

At least three of the cops were fired and the lead one was charged with murder with two more charged with manslaughter and excessive force.

I'm not sure what happened to their supervisor, who instructed them to watch the video BEFORE writing their reports
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Terrible episode. Yet another example of the government mindset. I have 5 Hungarian sitars that the term "white hispanic" reemerges.
post #52 of 6244
This thread will useful the next Time in an argument with someone who says only the police should have guns
post #53 of 6244
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This thread will useful the next Time in an argument with someone who says only the police should have guns

Yes it will.
post #54 of 6244
munchausen will soon be one of us.
post #55 of 6244
lol. Well I've always been anti-gun control and vaguely libertarian. It's been a while since I really considered myself to be liberal, although I do agree with a lot of the less authoritarian liberal positions.
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Originally Posted by munchausen View Post

lol. Well I've always been anti-gun control and vaguely libertarian. It's been a while since I really considered myself to be liberal, although I do agree with a lot of the less authoritarian liberal positions.

Rome wasn't built in a day.
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You stumble upon 5 men in black jumpsuits beating a man to death. The man being beaten is screaming "help me dad, they're killing me."
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Originally Posted by harvey_birdman View Post

You stumble upon 5 men in black jumpsuits beating a man to death. The man being beaten is screaming "help me dad, they're killing me."

Is this the beginning of a choose your own adventure book?
post #59 of 6244
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Originally Posted by munchausen View Post

Is this the beginning of a choose your own adventure book?

Yes, but all endings lead to "ass raped by the cops with a plunger."
post #60 of 6244
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Originally Posted by harvey_birdman View Post

Yes, but all endings lead to "ass raped by the cops with a plunger."

Not true. There's also, "beaten to death alongside the original victim," and "shot to death when your hand is mistaken for a gun."
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