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Originally Posted by otc View Post

Does involvement with the police include all of the times they look the other way on white people doing minor things?

 

No one's talking about unjust harassment or arrests of blacks. More importantly, the more black people they confront, the more disproportionate the # of killings becomes, as in how few.

post #4397 of 6072
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Originally Posted by NorCal View Post

Iink?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36744368
post #4398 of 6072
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Originally Posted by accordion View Post

I haven't gone over the other points, but the 7:1 ratio of unarmed black men shot vs. unarmed whites looks pretty bad no matter what.

The actual data from the Wapo is 32 white and 38 black "unarmed" in 2015. But that doesn't mean there was no assault on the police officers at the time.

And as one of your links points out, many of those cases involve Mike Brown-esque physical attacks on officers, where the officer's gun is in danger of being taken.

And at least two of the black victims were stray bullet/bystander cases where the person killed wasn't even the target. In one of those cases the person was a passenger in a car whose driver had just shot at a cop.
post #4399 of 6072
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Originally Posted by NorCal View Post

Iink?

https://streamable.com/pgpb

Warning: it appears to show a cop getting killed.
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post


So sniper rifles are bolt action hunting rifles?


Labels like "sniper rifle" and "assault weapon" are very misleading, but the media has no idea how guns work. Snipers usually need a rifle capable of great accuracy at long distances. This requires a lot of energy; a lot of gun powder. You don't want the gun parts rattling around and wasting energy or moving the barrel, so the gun has to be very tight mechanically. Bolt action rifles accomplish this. Any rifle will be pretty accurate, and get you from point A to point B, but if you are dealing with a long range and a small target area, you need the right equipment.
post #4401 of 6072
So...hate crime?
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

So...hate crime?

I am not aware of any cases where a high-profile attack on whites is categorized as a hate crime. I am really hoping that the DOJ does not characterize this as a hate crime. I am really hoping it is categorized as a misunderstanding, or that cops are not a racially disparate group, or some nonsense like that. The comment by the shooter about hating white people can be explained away as heat exhaustion.

Please please please, Mr. Obama, don't call this a hate crime.
post #4403 of 6072
http://www.kare11.com/mb/news/police-scanner-audio-1/267042738
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A KARE 11 viewer, who gave us audio clips of police radio traffic, claims they captured the moments just before Philando Castile and his girlfriend were stopped by St. Anthony police – which ended in police shooting that killed Castile.

KARE 11 has attempted to confirm the authenticity of the recording with police officials, but so far they have not responded.

We have verified that the license plate mentioned by police in the recording matches the plate of the car Castile was driving. The location the officer gives also corresponds to the locations of the traffic stop.

“I’m going to stop a car,” the officer tells dispatchers on the recording. “I’m going to check IDs. I have reason to pull it over.”

“The two occupants just look like people that were involved in a robbery,” the officer says. “The driver looks more like one of our suspects, just ‘cause of the wide set nose,” the officer continues.

A minute and a half later, the recording captures the first report that there was a shooting.

Officer: “Shots fired Larpenteur and Fry.”
Dispatch: “Copy you just heard it? … You just heard the shots fired?”
Officer: (screaming) “Code 3! Shots fired.”
Dispatch: “Copy shots fired Larpenteur and Fry. Do you need medics?”
Officer: “Code 3!”
Dispatch: “Copy. Medics -- code 3 to Larpenteur and Fry.”
Officer: “One adult female taken into custody. Driver at gunpoint.”

It’s unclear which robbery the officer was referring to when he said Mr. Castile looked like a suspect. But the BCA had sent out a press release earlier this week saying St. Anthony police were investigating a gas station robbery that occurred in nearby Lauderdale on July 2.

Looks like Castile was pulled over for DWB, not a broken tail light as previously stated.
post #4404 of 6072
"Driver at gunpoint" ??

Not...driver shot and dead?
post #4405 of 6072
Why didn't you bold the part where he says "I have reason to pull it over"?
post #4406 of 6072
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Originally Posted by accordion View Post


This is incredibly stupid. You need to compare it to those who have been involved with the police. It's pretty moronic how The Guardian spins their own data.

Found another article:

http://www.dailywire.com/news/7264/5-statistics-you-need-know-about-cops-killing-aaron-bandler

 

I haven't gone over the other points, but the 7:1 ratio of unarmed black men shot vs. unarmed whites looks pretty bad no matter what. The other stuff about black/hispanic cops more likely to shoot blacks is true at face value, but the article doesn't back it up with percentages.

It is true that the ravages of policies such as the broken window theory (turning a correlation into a causal relationship) end up criminalizing poverty in the contemporary urban ghetto, resulting in constant police attention and various types of arrests. I gave the stats "as is" but if you want to read something more in depth I suggest getting this book:

https://www.amazon.com/Punishing-Poor-Neoliberal-Government-Insecurity/dp/082234422X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1467996568&sr=8-1&keywords=loic+wacquant
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It seems that Dallas had actually gone through a lot of police reforms and fired bad cops over the last year or so.  This will probably slow down any reform in the rest of the country.

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Originally Posted by Fuuma View Post


It is true that the ravages of policies such as the broken window theory (turning a correlation into a causal relationship) end up criminalizing poverty in the contemporary urban ghetto, resulting in constant police attention and various types of arrests. I gave the stats "as is" but if you want to read something more in depth I suggest getting this book:

https://www.amazon.com/Punishing-Poor-Neoliberal-Government-Insecurity/dp/082234422X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1467996568&sr=8-1&keywords=loic+wacquant

 

I'm not good with numbers but the justified? crime rate of blacks would need to be something like 5x-6x less than the reported to make police killings of black proportionate.

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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

It seems that Dallas had actually gone through a lot of police reforms and fired bad cops over the last year or so.  This will probably slow down any reform in the rest of the country.

Why?

Not saying you are wrong, just wondering why you think so.
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

Why didn't you bold the part where he says "I have reason to pull it over"?

I agree with you as I think lies should be bolded.
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