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post #436 of 6028
Originally Posted by Flieger View Post

Why is the follow up so tame? An ambitious prosecuter could make a name by pursuing shit like this, right?

Well, I think if you start going after cops as a prosecutor, you might find they are unwilling to help you go after non-police criminals.
post #437 of 6028
That's probably true. I Guess in most countries cops get away with some illegal shit.
However the dog shooting would certainly make headlines in most countries, violence against people less so weirdly enough.
post #438 of 6028
Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

Well, I think if you start going after cops as a prosecutor, you might find they are unwilling to help you go after non-police criminals.

Then appoint a special prosecutor who's only job is going after these assholes and putting them away with maximum sentences and recompense.
post #439 of 6028
LOS ANGELES (CN) - Manhattan Beach police, targeting men they suspect of being gay, wrongfully arrested a disabled child's caregiver in a public rest room and published his photo on a police website, the man claims in court.
Charles Samuel Couch sued the City of Manhattan Beach, its Police Chief Eve Irvine and five detectives, in Federal Court. He claims his photo was published in news reports on a sex sting operation that led to the arrest of 18 men.
Couch claims the March 9, 2012 fiasco happened while he caring for a boy with Prader-Willi Syndrome, a rare genetic disorder whose symptoms include mental retardation, diminished functional activity of the gonads, and arrested sexual development.
On that day, the child, identified as D.K., needed to use a beach restroom on Marine Avenue and the Strand, Couch says in the lawsuit.
Couch did not know the bathroom was the target of a sting operation and that a hole had been cut into the wall of the stall the child was using, so men could engage in sexual activity.
Because it can take a long time for people with Prader-Willi Syndrome to use the rest room, Couch says, he stood and waited for D.K. to finish. As he waited, defendant Det. John Nasori entered the stall next to D.K.'s, according to the complaint.
"A few minutes later the child bolted from the stall, rushed up to plaintiff and whispered, 'There is a man looking at me in the stall!' Horrified, plaintiff said: 'Lets get out of here,'" Couch says in the lawsuit.
He claims Nasori pursued them out of the rest room, where Couch ran into the four other detectives, who were dressed in plain clothes and looked like "thugs."
Believing that the men wanted to kidnap D.K., Couch grabbed the child, and then was "tackled, choked, and handcuffed," taken to jail and interrogated.
During interrogation, Couch "was accused of being sexually interested in other men, and asked if he would take his own little brother to a party to get 'laid,'" the complaint states.
After police called D.K.'s parents and confirmed that the child had Prader-Willi Syndrome, Couch says, he was released without charge.
He claims that while he was being questioned, police ransacked his car without a warrant, and found his personal laptop computer. He claims that Nasori committed perjury by testifying that the laptop had been used to commit a serious crime.
Couch says a Beverly Hills detective found nothing relating to "glory holes" or child pornography on the computer. "It was finally returned months later," Couch says.
"Meanwhile plaintiff was forced to withdraw from all his classes at EI Camino Junior College because his entire school work was on that computer."
A month later, Couch was "shocked and horrified" to see his photo published on the website of the Daily Breeze, in a story about the sting operation. The Daily Breeze is a 70,000 circulation daily based in Torrance.
"This photo and caption were given to the media who have published it nationwide," the lawsuit states.
To cap it off, Couch says, 11 months later, Manhattan police sent him notice of an outstanding warrant for resisting, obstructing or delaying a police officer.
Those charges were dismissed, Couch says. He claims Manhattan Beach police customarily arrest men without warrant or probable cause, and publicize the false arrests.
Manhattan Beach police "never arrest men by women decoy officers for non-monetary sexual solicitations or for loitering nor do they arrest women by male decoy officers for non-monetary sexual solicitations," the lawsuit states.
Couch seeks damages for violation of the 4th and 14th Amendments and also makes a Monell claim. He seeks punitive damages against Nasori for his alleged perjury.
Couch is represented by Bruce Nickerson of San Carlos.

post #440 of 6028
Makes me think of that south park episode
post #441 of 6028
So the police cut a hole in a bathroom stall to facilitate illegal sexual activity with minors? Sounds legit.
post #442 of 6028
Does anything involving police surprise you at this point?
post #443 of 6028
Originally Posted by hopkins_student View Post

Does anything involving police surprise you at this point?

Not really. The only surprise is nothing seems to be done about it. This omnipotent power thing is quite disturbing and should be a cause for alarm for everyone.
post #444 of 6028
Drug suspects had soap, not cocaine bricks
Pair spent month in prison before lab results came back.
December 13, 2013|By Manuel Gamiz Jr., Of The Morning Call
When a state trooper pulled the couple over along Interstate 78 last month, he said he stopped them because they were going 5 miles over the speed limit and hugging the side of the lane.

The trooper said he smelled marijuana. The driver of the new Mercedes-Benz, 26-year-old Annadel Cruz, told him she had smoked the drug before she left New York City, but had not done so in the car.

The trooper asked to search the car, and Cruz consented. When the trooper found two plastic-wrapped packages in the trunk of the car, Cruz told him they contained soap she had made herself.

The trooper field-tested them and Cruz and her friend, 30-year-old Alexander Bernstein, spent the next month in Lehigh County Prison after being arrested on cocaine-trafficking charges.

They got out this week after the Lehigh County district attorney's office dropped the charges because a state police lab tested the packages and found they contained boric acid or soap.

Attorneys for the couple are questioning the investigation, accusing the trooper of profiling the couple and botching the field test.

"I think it is a nice car with out-of-state plates and a Hispanic female behind the wheel" that prompted the traffic stop, said Josh Karoly, who represents Bernstein. "If it was me driving that car, this wouldn't have happened."

Cruz's attorney, Robert Goldman, said, "After this, everyone should pause about jumping to conclusions when a field test is said to be positive by law enforcement. There are people going to jail on high bail amounts based upon these field tests."

Bernstein was sent to prison under $500,000 bail and Cruz under $250,000 bail by District Judge Jacob Hammond.

Field tests are used by police departments to test substances believed to be drugs at suspected crime scenes. A sample of the substance is mixed with a liquid, causing a reaction and change in color that will indicate if it is an illegal drug, Karoly said.

That substance will then be sent to the state police lab for further analysis and testing.

Karoly said he believes the field test either didn't happen, it was lied about or something is wrong with how it was done.

"A young man spent a month in jail, spent a substantial amount of money to get out of jail and missed Thanksgiving with his 17-month-old son," he said. "To do that on a field test, we better be darn sure that these field tests are accurate."

Bernstein's bail was posted Tuesday, a day before the district attorney's office called to let him know they were dropping charges. Cruz, a community college student, was released from prison Wednesday, Goldman said. Goldman said Cruz had no criminal record before the Nov. 13 stop in South Whitehall Township.

While his client is happy to be released, Goldman said it will take time to recover from the stigma of being incarcerated as a drug offender.

"Her name is all over the place, making light of her defense that she was just transporting soap," he said. "She was labeled online as a drug dealer, she was incarcerated with people who do commit crimes.

"It's going to take her a good deal of time to get her good name back," Goldman said.

According to a criminal complaint:

A state trooper stopped Cruz, who was driving a new Mercedes-Benz, on westbound I-78 near the Cedar Crest Boulevard exit because she was approaching 60 mph in a 55 mph zone and was riding a traffic line for about a half-mile.

When questioned, Cruz told the trooper the car was a rental and they were driving from New York to Florida. The trooper told her he smelled marijuana and she said she had smoked earlier in the day, but not in the car. She gave police permission to search the car.

Bernstein told police he had a bag in the trunk and gave police permission to search it. In the bag, the trooper found two brick-size packages, which were covered in clear plastic wrap and red tape.

Cruz told police the packages contained soap she had made, but a field test revealed that the substance was cocaine. The packages weighed 5.2 pounds. Police said they also found a small amount of marijuana in Cruz's bra.

The couple were charged with possession with intent to deliver cocaine, possession of cocaine, conspiracy and possession of drug paraphernalia. Cruz also was charged with possession of a small amount of marijuana, disregarding traffic lanes and speeding.

The district attorney's office would only confirm that the state police lab determined the substance found in the car turned out to be soap, leading to the charges being withdrawn Thursday.

Attempts to reach state police Friday were unsuccessful.

Both attorneys accused state police of profiling.

Goldman said police stopped his client for barely going past the speed limit and getting close to the line, something almost every driver on the highway does at some point.

"Anybody who drives under 60 miles an hour on I-78 has the chance of getting rear-ended," Goldman said. "It was one of the worst probable causes for stopping."

Goldman said his client was taking the soap to a sister in Florida. He described Bernstein as her friend.

Karoly said this case is an example of rushing to conclusions.

"We are so cynical that we don't believe people," Karoly said. "We don't give people the benefit of the doubt."

Neither attorney said he has discussed civil litigation.


TL:DR don't travel with soap or fucking retarded cops will think it's cocaine and you'll go to prison for a month.
post #445 of 6028
Another entry in the "Don't consent to let cops search your car" file.
post #446 of 6028
Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

Another entry in the "Don't consent to let cops search your car" file.

Well...it kind of sounds like she was high.

How did they get stuck in jail for a month though? They had the money for the mercedes...they couldn't find a lawyer who could get them out until lab tests came back?
post #447 of 6028
Originally Posted by otc View Post

Well...it kind of sounds like she was high.

How did they get stuck in jail for a month though? They had the money for the mercedes...they couldn't find a lawyer who could get them out until lab tests came back?

lol no. Mercedes is the car of choice for people who live far above their means.
post #448 of 6028
Usually they owe more on the car than it's worth, so they couldn't sell it if they wanted.
post #449 of 6028
It was a rental car.
When questioned, Cruz told the trooper the car was a rental and they were driving from New York to Florida.
post #450 of 6028
They were gonna go over their rental mileage so they couldn't afford bail.
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