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Originally Posted by Rumpelstiltskin View Post

"Their communities"

You do realize the only reason "they" have separate communities is because "they" were forced there?

I'm not even going to touch the slavery portion of your post. If you don't get it, you don't get it

I would say the same thing about white communities, Asian communities or any other group of people. I'm referring to them as a people, not as a location on a map. If democrats are going to be using slavery as justification for a staggering murder rate in black communities 100 years from now, then there's no discussion to be had. This entire debate is pointless and we should just give up on solving the problem, because it cannot be solved if that continues.
post #4292 of 6095
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

It has been noted here many times that whites are actually killed by police at much higher rates than they commit the sort of violent crimes which justify the use of lethal force.

It's been noted but has valid proof this is the case been offered up? I've really not seen anything that supports this assertion but am open to data.
post #4293 of 6095
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Originally Posted by joshuadowen View Post

You are conflating unrelated statistics.

Not unrelated, though I'll concede that they are imperfect.

On the other hand, you can look at actual cop killers. Like this: http://www.newsweek.com/who-kills-police-officers-315701
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In 2013, 44 percent of cop killers were white, 37 percent were black and 11 percent were Hispanic. Last year, 54 percent were white, 26 percent were black and 18 percent were Hispanic. In those years there was also one Native American, one Inuit man and one Chechen, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, who is now on trial for the Boston Marathon bombing and is also accused of killing a Massachusetts Institute of Technology police officer in the days after the bombing. (A district attorney said this week she would wait until after the Boston Marathon bombing trial to prosecute Tsarnaev for the officer’s killing.)

And according to the Wapo, in 2015, blacks are about 25% of those killed by police, whites are 50%, hispanics 17%.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings/?tid=a_inl

So let's line these numbers up:

White: 49% of cop killers, 50% of cop-killed.
Black: 31.5% of cop killers, 25% of cop-killed.
Hispanic: 14.5% of cop killers, 17% of cop-killed.
post #4294 of 6095
It makes sense whites kill more cops as the blacks and browns get gunned down right off the bat. They let whites inside their safety zone too easily.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

It makes sense whites kill more cops as the blacks and browns get gunned down right off the bat. They let whites inside their safety zone too easily.

Whites kill fewer cops versus than percentage of the population. Blacks kill about 2.5x more than their respective share of the population.

And like you said, that's just the ones the cops didn't kill first.
post #4296 of 6095
More proof that AZNs are the only good minority.
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post

More proof that AZNs are the only good minority.

 

Consider the fora members (your GFs and ETOs) before you make such claims

post #4298 of 6095
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

Consider the fora members (your GFs and ETOs) before you make such claims

I mean true AZNs.
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

 

White: killed by cops - 50%  - 64% of total population
Black: killed by cops -25%. - 12% of total population
Hispanic: killed by cops -17% - 16% of total pop

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Like what I posted before, those numbers should be compared to those who've had encounters with the police and not the general population. If anything, it's strange how disproportionately less often blacks are killed compared to their arrest numbers and compared to other races.

 

Some guesses: proportionately more innocent blacks are harassed and arrested compared to other races. The numbers only include shootings and not those killed by other means. Or my best guess, that police shootings isn't a race issue, they kill indiscriminately, in which case, turning it into a race issue distorts the problem and makes it harder to address the cause.


Edited by accordion - 7/7/16 at 1:17pm
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Or simplistic statistics lump together a whole bunch of related issues and causative factors under convenient headings.
post #4302 of 6095

It's an interesting stat because you would think that the police murder mostly black people from what the media covers.

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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

Not unrelated, though I'll concede that they are imperfect.

On the other hand, you can look at actual cop killers. Like this: http://www.newsweek.com/who-kills-police-officers-315701
And according to the Wapo, in 2015, blacks are about 25% of those killed by police, whites are 50%, hispanics 17%.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings/?tid=a_inl

So let's line these numbers up:

White: 49% of cop killers, 50% of cop-killed.
Black: 31.5% of cop killers, 25% of cop-killed.
Hispanic: 14.5% of cop killers, 17% of cop-killed.

Aha!!

Proof you blue eyed white devils are no good.
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Originally Posted by accordion View Post

It's an interesting stat because you would think that the police murder mostly black people from what the media covers.

As opposed to quadroons and octoroons?
post #4305 of 6095

as opposed to whites? I know the stat isn't perfect but it's the best available data. It should be interesting regardless of political lines.

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