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post #421 of 6095
http://www.daily-times.com/four_corners-news/ci_24678616/farmington-police-department-buys-armored-military-fighting-vehicle

Ya know, for when the Soviets finally Red Dawn the Southwestern US.

Oh, it also, "plows through flood waters and fire," which I'm sure is why the SWAT team purchased it in the first place.


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FARMINGTON — It stands 14 feet tall and weighs 45,000 pounds.

It can withstand bullets and bombs and plow through flood waters and fire.

And it will be at the next SWAT situation in Farmington.

Farmington police obtained a Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected vehicle, or MRAP, from the U.S. military.

The military hired contractors to build more than 24,000 of the vehicles for wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, according to the U.S. Department of Defense website.

As the military scales down operations in those countries, law enforcement agencies throughout the country are getting used military vehicles for next to nothing, said Farmington police Cmdr. Cliff Washburn, who overseas Farmington's SWAT, or Special Weapons and Tactics, team.

The City of Farmington paid $3,000 for the transport of the MRAP, which cost more than $600,000 to build, Washburn said.

Washburn said the vehicle will be deployed at all future SWAT team calls. The vehicle can carry a 10-person SWAT team, plus one person armed in the turret on the top.

The Farmington SWAT team, on average, responds to about one call a month.

The SWAT team is called out for barricaded suspects or hostage situations. It also serves high-risk arrest warrants, which can apply to an array of charges, Washburn said.

Washburn said the tank-like vehicle can also be used in rescue situations -- such as a flood -- or to ferry victims away from dangerous situations.

"It's foolish to leave an asset at home when you might need it in the field," Washburn said. "Plus, it's very intimidating. You roll up in front of somebody's house with that, and it gets their attention. We'll take it everywhere we go."

While police say the vehicle will increase officer safety, the American Civil Liberties Union said the Department of Defense MRAP distribution program is further militarizing police forces across the country.

The ACLU announced in March it was investigating the prevalence of police departments relying on military style equipment and training. The organization said on its website that militarizing police can "encourage overly aggressive policing."

"Of course, we all want law enforcement to be equipped with the tools they need to do their job," said Micah McCoy, the communications director for the ACLU in New Mexico. "But I think we need to question when we use military weapons, tactics and equipment to police a community."

Washburn said the military-style training and equipment helps the SWAT team diffuse hostile situations more quickly.

"Just because it came from the military doesn't mean it's going to be used by the military," Washburn said. "Traditionally, when the SWAT teams arrive, the situations tend to de-escalate."

That second to last sentence is like saying, "Just because we wear BDU's, carry combat gear and fully automatic assault rifles doesn't mean we're the military." Doesn't quite ring true.

"De-escalation" also has a very Orwellian sound to it coming from outta this guy's mouth.
post #422 of 6095
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Originally Posted by burningbright View Post

http://www.daily-times.com/four_corners-news/ci_24678616/farmington-police-department-buys-armored-military-fighting-vehicle

Ya know, for when the Soviets finally Red Dawn the Southwestern US.

Oh, it also, "plows through flood waters and fire," which I'm sure is why the SWAT team purchased it in the first place.
That second to last sentence is like saying, "Just because we wear BDU's, carry combat gear and fully automatic assault rifles doesn't mean we're the military." Doesn't quite ring true.

"De-escalation" also has a very Orwellian sound to it coming from outta this guy's mouth.

Maybe they'll deescalate some dogs with it.
post #423 of 6095
They're gonna take everywhere they go? Operating costs on that thing will bankrupt the city.
post #424 of 6095
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Originally Posted by SixOhNine View Post

They're gonna take everywhere they go? Operating costs on that thing will bankrupt the city.

Don't worry. They will be bailed out.
post #425 of 6095
A town near me with a population of about 14,000 has one of those. They bring it out to schools when they run "school shooting drills" instead of fire drills. Never too young to be taught to kneel down before the government.
post #426 of 6095
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Originally Posted by harvey_birdman View Post

Never too young to be taught to kneel down before the government.

HoF post.
post #427 of 6095
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Originally Posted by harvey_birdman View Post

A town near me with a population of about 14,000 has one of those. They bring it out to schools when they run "school shooting drills" instead of fire drills. Never too young to be taught to kneel down before the government.

Being a filthy foreigner, I had not heard of the phenomenon. I don't know wether to laugh or laugh.

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post #428 of 6095
Those pictures are a bit depressing. I guess there will be a point where the richer communities will be able to correct their local police departement. The poorer areas will probably see military style policing develop further and further.
post #429 of 6095
Having money will protect us for a while, but the military police state is inevitable.
post #430 of 6095
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Originally Posted by harvey_birdman View Post

Having money will protect us for a while, but the military police state is inevitable.

If that's the case then a civil war is inevitable.
post #431 of 6095
Dog-killings are apparently becoming passé amongst law enforcement:


http://www.policestateusa.com/2013/nypd-evelyn-lugo-parakeet/

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NYPD broke down door without warrant, beat up family, stomped pet bird to death

NEW YORK CITY, NY — A Staten Island family barbecue turned into a nightmare when it was interrupted by police investigating the improper use of a parking cone to save a parking spot on the street. What resulted was a day the family will never forget, as their home was invaded without a warrant, several family members were bludgeoned, and a NYPD officer sadistically stomped on a pet parakeet that lay helpless on the floor.

The incident occurred on September 2nd, 2012, as the family of Evelyn Lugo celebrated Labor Day at their St. George neighborhood home. Lugo, 57, and her children and grandchildren were at the home eating and enjoying each other’s company.

When Lugo’s son Edwin Avellanet, 26, went outside to dispose of a bag of garbage, he was approached by police investigating a parking cone. Someone had placed a cone on the street to reserve a parking spot without city permission. Avellanet was stopped and questioned about the suspicious cone, but insisted that he had done nothing wrong.

Not accepting his denial, police demanded identification. Avellanet had nothing to show them. When he was grabbed by the arm by one of the uniformed bullies, he broke free and retreated into the house.

Avellanet went into the residence and closed the door. The NYPD did not take kindly to this, beating on the door, breaking through the windows, and forcing their way into the home. Backup officers poured into the house.

Looking for Avellanet — the suspected cone placer — police went around breaking doors in half, attacking family members with pepper spray, and bludgeoning people with clubs.

“They threw me like a piece of garbage on the floor,” Evelyn Lugo said.

Her son, George Lugo, and family friend Luis Ortega were attacked repeatedly with a baton and suffered severe facial injuries.

Evelyn Lugo’s daughter, Alba Cuevas, was attacked with chemical pepper spray and retreated into a bathroom when she started suffering from an asthma attack. Police ripped her out and arrested her.

As officers stormed the house, they knocked a birdcage off of a dresser. The small green parakeet, Tito, was flung helplessly from the cage, landing on the floor. NY Daily News reported what happened next:

“I screamed, ‘The bird!’ ” Lugo’s daughter Anna Febles told the Daily News, “and he said, ‘F— the bird,’ and he, like, stepped on it.”

“I was shocked,” Febles, 30, said. “It was a blue and green bird. It was really pretty.”

Pictures taken after the even show the wounds suffered by several family members.

The death of the bird was concealed from Evelyn Lugo by her family until the following day. They didn’t think she could take any more heartbreak after watching her home get destroyed and her loved ones arrested.

“They (the cops) don’t care about us as humans, they’re going to care about the bird?” Lugo later. She said she has suffered from depression and emotional scars since the incident.

Ortega, George Lugo and Cuevas were arrested, but the charges were later dropped and sealed. The original target of the stop-and-harass, Avellanet, was not charged.

Police had no evidence that Avellanet had a crime and he was not being detained. To chase him down and terrorize his family over a parking cone was beyond ridiculous. NYPD had no warrant, of course, and that is the basis for one of the complaints in a lawsuit filed in late November, alleging unlawful search and seizure, excessive force and malicious prosecution.


The other stories from this watchdog website are as equally or more disturbing than this one.
post #432 of 6095
Why is the follow up so tame? An ambitious prosecuter could make a name by pursuing shit like this, right?
post #433 of 6095
Department must be have a "use it or lose it" style budget...discovered they were running a little behind on excessive force settlements for the fiscal year.
post #434 of 6095
The pet killing is a weird fixation though.
post #435 of 6095
The parakeet was in a threatening posture and the officer feared for his life. Haven't you ever seen Hitchcock's "Birds"? They're deadly, dangerous creatures and the officer is lucky to have escaped without suffering serious bodily harm.
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