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post #3406 of 6081
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Originally Posted by NorCal View Post

wait

This is what teachers should do. Show restraint.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3300204/The-frightening-moment-despondent-teacher-bullied-students-classroom-tell-sit-threaten-chair.html
post #3407 of 6081
http://wtnh.com/2015/11/02/new-haven-pd-take-valuables-in-east-rock-to-teach-lesson/
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New Haven PD take valuables in East Rock to teach lesson

NEW HAVEN, Conn. (WTNH) — Lock your doors or learn your lesson, that’s the message from New Haven police.

Officers in East Rock are starting a pilot program.

“Cars will be checked for visible valuables,” said New Haven City Spokesperson Laurence Grotheer.

If they see a valuable Grotheer says they’ll take it if you car doors are unlocked. They’ll leave a note and you can pick it up at the police station property room.

“I think it might work,” said Audrey who lives in the neighborhood.

“It seems odd,” said Kristen Zalota who lives in East Rock. “It’s an interesting way to combat crime I guess.”

It seems a little invasive, I’m uncomfortable with the idea,” said Corey Hassell.

Grotheer says there’s a *caretaker* provision in state law that allows them to do it.

“There is an exemption in standard search warrant provisions to allow for this caretaker action,” said Grotheer.

With the holidays coming officers typically see a spike in car burglaries. That’s what they hope to stop with this pilot program. When I asked about some feeling it’s invasive Grotheer says they should tell the police.

“I suppose that would be part of the feedback we would get and the trial would reflect that. The results of this pilot program,” said Grotheer.

New Haven civil rights attorney John Williams says police are the ones who should learn a lesson here.

“What they’re doing here is in my judgement is not questionable a 4th amendment violation. They ought to get sued. I hope they do get sued,” said Williams.

He says this pilot program is against search warrant federal laws.

Williams saidm “In effect what they’re doing is stealing these people’s property. They have no right to enter their car at all because just because it’s not locked doesn’t mean it’s not your private property.”

Grotheer says all laws are open to interpretation.

New Haven police did not respond to our requests for interviews.
post #3408 of 6081
Sure enough, suicide. This freak show called in a fake pursuit and then killed himself. Cost the state several million for the man hunt and police overtime to attend his funeral. At least they won't have to pay his pension.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/lake-county-news-sun/news/ct-lns-fox-lake-joe-gliniewicz-st-1104-20151103-story.html
post #3409 of 6081
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Originally Posted by texas_jack View Post

Sure enough, suicide. This freak show called in a fake pursuit and then killed himself. Cost the state several million for the man hunt and police overtime to attend his funeral. At least they won't have to pay his pension.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/lake-county-news-sun/news/ct-lns-fox-lake-joe-gliniewicz-st-1104-20151103-story.html

He was a 30 year veteran. I bet his family will collect his pension.
post #3410 of 6081
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Originally Posted by Harold falcon View Post

Now it's a local newspaper, so there's no way we can verify it. Keep digging that hole.


Things have certainly changed in the 20+ years since I was in school. Back then we mocked the poors who got free food. Now it's so common it's not even a cause for shame. Pathetic.

The last I was writing about was about the rich who weren't trying to slip understand, but were up front and it was a community decision. I thought it was odd, too. When I was was a child so many mom's stayed home. Then came women's lib. American life style made major changes. With that would be lots of experiments. One experiment, which really surprised me, is father's staying home to take care of the children. That was was a totally ridiculous thought in the past, and then it was happening. The list of changes is huge since women's lib. Sounds like when you came along later, and what was completely wrong in the past, was always normal for you. How many women today accept the man as the head of the house hold? Today so many women demand equal. Believe me, the world and the way it thinks today is very different.
post #3411 of 6081
English isn't your first language, is it?
post #3412 of 6081
Credit cards in school? What has the world come to?

What was it? Milk was three cents a carton? And then it went up to four cents. I'll have to ask my brother what the price was. He seems to remember stuff like that.

The kitchen had restaurant stoves, fridges, ovens and a huge mixer that Sat on the floor. The food for lunches was made at the school. Decades later when the school was closed pre-made lunches was being brought in. Children eat garbage today. Almost all the food today in schools was not allowed when I went to school. The standards have not been kept up.
post #3413 of 6081
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Originally Posted by Harold falcon View Post

English isn't your first language, is it?

It is. But I was never good at it. After high school I rarely wrote anything and I forgot much. When I'm away from people for about two weeks I find I rarely use words because I think with pictures. Thinking with pictures, is that a skill you have? Some people have it and some people don't. You don't hear much about picture thinking because they don't know what to think about it nor how to use it in school. Although, where you might learn some about it in school would be in industrial arts, architecture, drafting and regular art classes and probably drama because these subjects are of the visual world. Clothing is the visual world of art, therefore it is much faster to think in pictures. With people a few words and showing. Over the internet it is all words, which takes longer to explain, unless you can post some pictures. In some occupations words rule. With other occupations other things rule, such as taste, sound, and as I said, visual.
post #3414 of 6081
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Originally Posted by Harold falcon View Post

English isn't your first language, is it?

You disagree that "many women demand equal"?

It's a simple assertion, Harvey. I mean, cmon.

Here, perhaps you'd understand better if your mente functioned pictorially like greger's does (slide 3):
post #3415 of 6081
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Originally Posted by greger View Post

It is. But I was never good at it. After high school I rarely wrote anything and I forgot much. When I'm away from people for about two weeks I find I rarely use words because I think with pictures. Thinking with pictures, is that a skill you have? Some people have it and some people don't. You don't hear much about picture thinking because they don't know what to think about it nor how to use it in school. Although, where you might learn some about it in school would be in industrial arts, architecture, drafting and regular art classes and probably drama because these subjects are of the visual world. Clothing is the visual world of art, therefore it is much faster to think in pictures. With people a few words and showing. Over the internet it is all words, which takes longer to explain, unless you can post some pictures. In some occupations words rule. With other occupations other things rule, such as taste, sound, and as I said, visual.


Have you been evaluated for autism?
post #3416 of 6081
November 4, 2015


And the plot thickens.
post #3417 of 6081
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Originally Posted by texas_jack View Post

Sure enough, suicide. This freak show called in a fake pursuit and then killed himself. Cost the state several million for the man hunt and police overtime to attend his funeral. At least they won't have to pay his pension.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/lake-county-news-sun/news/ct-lns-fox-lake-joe-gliniewicz-st-1104-20151103-story.html

Even more, turns out guy had been stealing from the department for years and was about to get caught.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/lake-county-news-sun/news/ct-lns-fox-lake-joe-gliniewicz-st-1104-20151103-story.html
post #3418 of 6081

since when is it their job to "teach us lessons"

I sent the article to a friend of mine who is a state's atty in the new haven district and asked for his feedback, using some colorful language to let him know my thoughts.
post #3419 of 6081
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Originally Posted by JohnGalt View Post

since when is it their job to "teach us lessons"

I sent the article to a friend of mine who is a state's atty in the new haven district and asked for his feedback, using some colorful language to let him know my thoughts.

Why not? They have been in the nanny business for quite some time - for our own good! Buckle up sir.
post #3420 of 6081
More new details about the cop who committed suicide: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/charles-gliniewicz-sought-killing-village-administrator
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Months before an Illinois police officer staged his suicide to look like murder, prompting an expensive manhunt that put his community under siege, he tried to find a hit man to kill a village administrator he feared would expose him as a thief, a detective told The Associated Press on Thursday.

Det. Chris Covelli said Lt. Charles Joseph Gliniewicz sent a text in April asking a woman to contact a "high ranking gang member to put a hit on the village manager." Gliniewicz also texted that perhaps the hit man could "plant something" on the manager, Covelli said.

Investigators found small packages of cocaine in his desk, "not linked to any case that we could find," and believe Gliniewicz may have sought to frame the manager, Anne Marrin, as a drug criminal before she exposed him as an embezzler, the detective said.

"We never found any explanation why those drugs were in his desk at the police station," Covelli said.

Marrin, the village's first professional administrator, was auditing Fox Lake's finances, including the Police Explorers program that authorities say he secretly embezzled from for seven years.

What a hero.
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