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post #3316 of 6095
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Originally Posted by texas_jack View Post

It seems obvious to me. Continue teaching the class like nothing happened and then suspended her after class. why did anything have to be done then other than pride?

If the disruption was really as minor as taking out her phone, that could be reasonable.

In a more general case, you could easily have a kid who wouldn't stop talking, watching videos, whatever form of disruption. Some kids will do it just to be assholes (or regain some missing sense of power and control in their lives, etc, etc). I don't think you could realistically just let them ruin a class period for all the other students. If nothing else, it would totally invalidate the teacher's authority. You get some kid with oppositional defiant disorder and you're going to have a bad time if you give them an inch.
post #3317 of 6095
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

If the disruption was really as minor as taking out her phone, that could be reasonable.

In a more general case, you could easily have a kid who wouldn't stop talking, watching videos, whatever form of disruption. Some kids will do it just to be assholes (or regain some missing sense of power and control in their lives, etc, etc). I don't think you could realistically just let them ruin a class period for all the other students. If nothing else, it would totally invalidate the teacher's authority. You get some kid with oppositional defiant disorder and you're going to have a bad time if you give them an inch.


+1. I would like to know more about the history of this student and her behavior before judging the cop too harshly. If this was a one off, I think the smart move is to be a wimp and call for backup. Being ridiculed as scared of a teenage girl is better than what is about to happen to him.

That cop should get out of the country while he can.
post #3318 of 6095
True condemnation should go to administration and the public.

Teachers are told to maintain order in the classroom. How? How, when one or several students is not interested in learning? The teacher is supposed to maintain order, and when attacked, assume a defensive stop drop and roll posture. If the teacher defends himself, he is sued, arrested, and fired.

If the teacher does not try to maintain order, he is fired for allowing twerking, sperking, slapping, rapping, pumping, pimping, or whatever else the kids do these days.

The cowardly public and administration sit in judgment from the sofa and the leather recliner. The fault is theirs. Damn them. Damn them all.
post #3319 of 6095
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Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post

I watched the video carefully, trying to determine if SRO intended to drop the chair, or if that occurred as a result of resistance.

Based on my review, the SRO intended to flip the chair and student on her back. He moves toward her leg with his left hand. I thought she may have been driving the chair back with her feet, but her feet are probably trying to establish balance.

They were both spoiling to fight, and got what they wanted.

The big difference of course is one is ostensibly a trained and responsible adult and the other one is a brat.
post #3320 of 6095
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

The big difference of course is one is ostensibly a trained and responsible adult and the other one is a brat.

Based on the observations in this thread, the expectation for cops is lower than for hoodlums.
post #3321 of 6095
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Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post

Based on the observations in this thread, the expectation for cops is lower than for hoodlums.

And they are meeting expectations quite often.
post #3322 of 6095
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Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post

Based on the observations in this thread, the expectation for cops is lower than for hoodlums.

As it should be. Cops can kill with impunity, hoodlums routinely face the full weight of the justice system.


http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20151027/PC16/151029406/solicitor-no-charges-in-upstate-police-shooting-of-seneca-teen

All that over a 19-year old trying to buy some weed.

When they murder someone, it's deemed nothing but a a training issue and protests are met with empty promises to do better in the future.
post #3323 of 6095
#whitelivesmatter
post #3324 of 6095
That kid died over 10 grams of weed. That's a misdemeanor amount. The drug war is awesome.
post #3325 of 6095
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Originally Posted by texas_jack View Post

That kid died over 10 grams of weed. That's a misdemeanor amount. The drug war is awesome.

The streets are so much safer now.
post #3326 of 6095
Is there supposed to be sound?
post #3327 of 6095
Oh. It doesn't have sound because it's in slow motion. Am I surprised that someone would slow the video down without disclosing it? Not at all.
post #3328 of 6095
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Originally Posted by texas_jack View Post

It seems obvious to me. Continue teaching the class like nothing happened and then suspended her after class. why did anything have to be done then other than pride?


This is exactly right. The dumb bint may have been disruptive but I've read nowhere that she was violent. So one class on remedial American History gets wasted putting up with her antics. It's not like kids actually learn anything in public schools anyway.

The officer's actions were completely unwarranted in this situation. He should be charged with assault.
post #3329 of 6095
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

Oh. It doesn't have sound because it's in slow motion. Am I surprised that someone would slow the video down without disclosing it? Not at all.

It's the first direct link I saw. Here's a regular one with sound: http://www.wyff4.com/news/dashcam-video-released-of-zach-hammond-shooting/36069718

Besides capturing the cop saying "Stop! Stop! Stop!" I don't view it as changing the scenario at all.
post #3330 of 6095
Except that it depicts the car moving far faster and the cop having far less time to decide whether the kid is going to keep turning into him and run him over.

Otherwise it's the same, yeah.
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