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post #3196 of 6072
Also, what I should have originally replied with:



post #3197 of 6072
I dunno. Big public unions (teachers' NY until Giuliani?) bilking the public via political entrenchment and a big financial institution eventually doing likewise through mgmt going parabolic on leverage in order to grab insane +near term stock options and bonus...and then the taxpayer is on the hook for bailouts re: "too big to fail"?

Two sides of the same shit sandwich IMO.
post #3198 of 6072
In other pigs acting like pigs news:

http://kxan.com/2015/10/09/round-rock-high-police-incident-caught-on-camera/

Here's the officer's account:
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Two Round Rock Police Department SROs responded to break up the fight. One male student refused to comply with an administrator and was attempting to continue to fight the other student. SROs began speaking with the student to calm him down and to de-escalate the situation by walking him into another area of the building. The student refused to calm down and was attempting to get past the SROs to the location of the other student to continue with the altercation. After repeated attempts to calm the non-compliant student, and stop him from going after the other student, officers were forced to detain him for his safety and the safety of others.

Watch the video and see if it corresponds to reality.
post #3199 of 6072
On the topic of moral hazard, how about the fact that the public pays for any award grant when plaintiffs sue the police? Why would the cops give any shits about civil judgement against them when the taxpayers are the ones that are liable in the end?
post #3200 of 6072
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Watch the video and see if it corresponds to reality.

"We had to detain him for his own protection" = "We had to take that bitch to the floor by his neck for his own protection."
post #3201 of 6072
The cop went from 0 to 60 awfuly quick. I wonder what the kid said.

Oh well, these are lawsuit days. Let the lawyers make a few bucks ( on both sides ).
post #3202 of 6072
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On the topic of moral hazard, how about the fact that the public pays for any award grant when plaintiffs sue the police? Why would the cops give any shits about civil judgement against them when the taxpayers are the ones that are liable in the end?


I certainly hope this is rhetorical because i would be curious to know what employer is exempt from liability for the actions of an employee in the performance of his job.   You are a taxpayer and a citizen of the jurisdiction in which your local police operate

post #3203 of 6072
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I certainly hope this is rhetorical because i would be curious to know what employer is exempt from liability for the actions of an employee in the performance of his job.   You are a taxpayer and a citizen of the jurisdiction in which your local police operate


Cops won't ever change so long as they get to keep their pensions even after they violate the constitutional rights of others.
post #3204 of 6072


Isn't it illegal to violate the Constitutional rights of others?

post #3205 of 6072
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Isn't it illegal to violate the Constitutional rights of others?

Not really. Technically they can bring a case against a cop for violation of civil rights - see the Rodney King case - but that's so rare it almost never happens. It's still a cause for a civil suit, and that's where the money gets made. But the judgment is rarely against the cops personally, which it should be.
post #3206 of 6072
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I certainly hope this is rhetorical because i would be curious to know what employer is exempt from liability for the actions of an employee in the performance of his job.   You are a taxpayer and a citizen of the jurisdiction in which your local police operate

That's the moral hazard part though, the police department doesn't pay their own bills. All their money comes from the public, so they really have no reason to care about civil judgement against the department. The public isn't going to screw itself by reducing the operating budget of the police force, so they end up just forking over more tax dollars to pay the judgements.

If a business loses a judgement, profits are going to go down, people are going to get fired, whatever. They can't just reach into their customers' pockets and take more money.
post #3207 of 6072
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Originally Posted by englade321 View Post


I certainly hope this is rhetorical because i would be curious to know what employer is exempt from liability for the actions of an employee in the performance of his job.   You are a taxpayer and a citizen of the jurisdiction in which your local police operate

That's the moral hazard part though, the police department doesn't pay their own bills. All their money comes from the public, so they really have no reason to care about civil judgement against the department. The public isn't going to screw itself by reducing the operating budget of the police force, so they end up just forking over more tax dollars to pay the judgements.

If a business loses a judgement, profits are going to go down, people are going to get fired, whatever. They can't just reach into their customers' pockets and take more money.


Wot??? The police dept is a branch of the city/county/state government we arn't customers we are employers the police are our employees .If we don't like what the police are doing it is OUR responsibility to change that . Maybe the police are out of control because the citizens are adopting a victim mentality instead of doing their job as employers. The people get the government they deserve 

post #3208 of 6072
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Woman has a verbal sparring with police, police follow her and pulls her over for a seatbelt violation yada yada yada woman ends up on the ground and receives a light beating in front of her kids and charged with 2 felonies.  Officers were able to go home safely that day

Suddenly video of event surfaces and charges are suddenly dropped. Woman sues for an unspecified amount.  Woman's husband also sues because the light beating resulted in no sexual congress for just about 2 years. SF waits on pins and needles for Ataturk to opine on the case





http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3260527/Shocking-video-shows-moment-mother-pinned-ground-police-officers-repeatedly-punched-face.html


https://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/283490875?access_key=key-fVgl0TGtmSNTCidx9TKV&allow_share=true&escape=false&view_mode=scroll

So, I missed this one. I saw a single empty-hand, closed-fist strike to the jaw, not a particularly hard one, which was clearly justified by her actively resisting and striking the officer several times immediately beforehand. It looked like it worked pretty well because she stopped fighting back long enough for them to handcuff her.
post #3209 of 6072
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So, I missed this one. I saw a single empty-hand, closed-fist strike to the jaw, not a particularly hard one, which was clearly justified by her actively resisting and striking the officer several times immediately beforehand. It looked like it worked pretty well because she stopped fighting back long enough for them to handcuff her.


Wow.
post #3210 of 6072
I love how she thought the cop that beat her ass was coming there to rescue her from that evil bad cop. Even this country's precious white women ain't safe from these guys. None of us are safe.
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