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post #2776 of 6072
Apparently the cop originally claimed that DuBose tried to drive off, but sure looks like the cop just reached into the car and shot him in the face.
post #2777 of 6072
I didn't notice this from the first few videos I watched, but I caught a higher quality and much longer clip and the man in the car holds his door shut as the cop tries to open it (after telling him to take off his seat belt) and then starts his car. The resulting scuffle includes the shot to the head and the man then driving off, slumped backward after taking the bullet to his head.

In the initial videos I watched on CNN and the like, the volume was low and quality was poor so it was hard to tell the fight for the car door or the car being started. I think a lot of the MSM outlets out there purposefully edited the video down to make that less clear and try to fan the flames. I never thought I'd be one trumping up "the narrative", but here I am haha.

Still, attempting to flee does not give a cop the right to use deadly force. The cop was not in front of the car and no one was in immediate danger. This is far less clear-cut than trumped up to be.
post #2778 of 6072
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Originally Posted by whiteslashasian View Post

I didn't notice this from the first few videos I watched, but I caught a higher quality and much longer clip and the man in the car holds his door shut as the cop tries to open it (after telling him to take off his seat belt) and then starts his car. The resulting scuffle includes the shot to the head and the man then driving off, slumped backward after taking the bullet to his head.

In the initial videos I watched on CNN and the like, the volume was low and quality was poor so it was hard to tell the fight for the car door or the car being started. I think a lot of the MSM outlets out there purposefully edited the video down to make that less clear and try to fan the flames. I never thought I'd be one trumping up "the narrative", but here I am haha.

Still, attempting to flee does not give a cop the right to use deadly force. The cop was not in front of the car and no one was in immediate danger. This is far less clear-cut than trumped up to be.

What's not clear-cut?
post #2779 of 6072
That this was a cop who wanted to murder someone for no reason at all. Obviously the cop bringing deadly force into the situation was the last thing he should have done, but a lot of people wouldn't notice the door struggle or attempt to flee simply by watching the video a time or two. It took me a few watches to piece together. The prior trouble with the law and number of children are all red herrings.
post #2780 of 6072
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Originally Posted by whiteslashasian View Post

I didn't notice this from the first few videos I watched, but I caught a higher quality and much longer clip and the man in the car holds his door shut as the cop tries to open it (after telling him to take off his seat belt) and then starts his car. The resulting scuffle includes the shot to the head and the man then driving off, slumped backward after taking the bullet to his head.

In the initial videos I watched on CNN and the like, the volume was low and quality was poor so it was hard to tell the fight for the car door or the car being started. I think a lot of the MSM outlets out there purposefully edited the video down to make that less clear and try to fan the flames. I never thought I'd be one trumping up "the narrative", but here I am haha.

Still, attempting to flee does not give a cop the right to use deadly force. The cop was not in front of the car and no one was in immediate danger. This is far less clear-cut than trumped up to be.

The cop was reaching into the car when it starts to move and he's apparently pulled along. Cops get injured or killed that way all the time.
post #2781 of 6072
post #2782 of 6072
Just spit balling here but maybe police forces should adopt policies that police should not reach into cars in such a manner that they would be subject to getting pulled along? I mean, I know they're professional law enforcement and I'm just a civilian arm chair quarterback, but seems to me if this type of action is so fraught with peril the experts in law enforcement might notice an easily preventable trend?
post #2783 of 6072
Oh come one. I clicked on 4-5 of those and not a single one of them involved someone being dragged while they were pulling on the door handle (I'd assume you would just let go).

They were all much more malicious...rolling the window up on the cops arms, driving away when the cop is halfway inside the car going for the keys in the ignition, etc.
post #2784 of 6072
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Originally Posted by otc View Post

They were all much more malicious...rolling the window up on the cops arms, driving away when the cop is halfway inside the car going for the keys in the ignition, etc.

That's fucked up. Note to self, never reach into a car with my gun hand (or keep a gun on both hips).
post #2785 of 6072
On further review (found a video that wasn't edited), it does appear that the officer did reach further into the car to grab at the seatbelt.

It doesn't appear that the guy in the car is holding on to him though. And why is his gun already ready to go? If you are going to pull your gun and point it at someone, why are you also reaching into the car? Wouldn't that give them a chance to grab you and try and do something like get your gun or drag you? Seems to me that if you are going to pull the gun on someone, you should let the gun motivate them to remove their seatbelt rather than trying to do it with your off hand.
post #2786 of 6072
shooting someone because your holding onto a moving vehicle is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. How's about don't hold on?
post #2787 of 6072
Do we have to note that he finished his shift alive?
post #2788 of 6072
Although...if body cams are supposed to stop the shitty police behavior. this seems like strong evidence that they just don't give a shit.

It will help for actually punishing this asshole, but it didn't do shit as far as making him not act like an idiot on camera.
post #2789 of 6072
Pretty sure proper procedure is discussed at the academy. Under stress though... you can easily forget combination locks that you known for years.
post #2790 of 6072
When DuBose acted as if he were impaired and showed the Officer the bottle of wine, didn't that make it into a case of securing a very probable DWI perp, and not just messing with someone that didn't have a front plate., as many are shouting.

Also, I couldn't tell on the tape if the Officer had checked anything on DuBose. If the Officer was aware that DuBose was driving on a suspended license, driving while impaired and had an extensive arrest record, would that mean anything?
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