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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

We already knew she was a marijuana user based on her prior arrests for marijuana, which, IIRC, stemmed from traffic stops.

If she's a marijuana user, carries it with her in the car, and is traveling, she's probably smoking it in the car. She's probably worried about the smell persisting whether she was smoking it at the exact moment she was stopped or not. I don't think it's strong evidence, but this is hardly pure speculation or "no evidence."

There are a shit ton of "ifs" and "probablys" in there.

Of course it's pure speculation. You just made up the whole "theory" yourself.
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And, I guess I should reiterate, it doesn't really matter whether she really was trying to cover up the smell of dope, only whether her actions raised that suspicion.

You have no reason to believe that though. As far as anybody knows, the police had no prior knowledge that she had any history with marijuana. If they have such evidence, I'm sure they'll be more than happy to inform us to cover their asses.

This is like your justification for that dumbass at the Texas pool party who "obviously" thought the kid was pulling a gun, when absolutely nobody who was actually involved ever said anything to that effect.
post #2672 of 6095
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Originally Posted by JohnGalt View Post


not disagreeing with that - just the prior statement that thc can be detected in blood 6 mo post-usage. gc/ms testing of urine is very sensitive and the references I have say up to 77 days for a 10-day clear for very heavy users. heavy cocaine use can go out to ~3 weeks.


That sounds about right.  Since she was dead I am going on the assumption that they conducted a blood test, which is far more sensitive than a urine test

post #2673 of 6095
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Originally Posted by Rumpelstiltskin View Post


That sounds about right.  Since she was dead I am going on the assumption that they conducted a blood test, which is far more sensitive than a urine test

blood is not more "sensitive" than urine when looking for thc-cooh. blood is indicative of recent use (i.e. within a few days), whereas urine could be positive significantly longer. both will be variable depending on the level of use.
post #2674 of 6095
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

There are a shit ton of "ifs" and "probablys" in there.

Do you not realize that the "ifs" are facts reported in various news stories about the woman? I'd think someone with your background would be more familiar with the typical argument form of "if A, then B."
post #2675 of 6095
Cop drives 100mph at night on a 2 lane road with 35mph limit with no sirens or lights and runs over pedestrian crossing the street but of course:

"Mr. Morales ran out into the roadway into oncoming traffic," he said, "And the accident simply could not have been avoided."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/arlington-heights/news/ct-arh-wheeling-dash-cam-tl-0724-20150723-story.html
post #2676 of 6095
Sometimes cops have to kill one of the proles to keep the rest of us safe from traffic violations. Glad to see the officer got home safe.
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The cop doesn't have his flashing lights on, but he's got his headlights on. You could argue the drunk jaywalker guy might have been more careful if he'd seen the flashers, on notice that the approaching car might be going faster than he expects, but he doesn't seem to have ever looked back.

A lot of blame to go around there.
post #2678 of 6095
So if the cop was suspicious she had been smoking up, and the cigarette was to cover the smell, why didn't the cop just do what cops always do, namely, ask her if she had been smoking up? Cops always, ALWAYS, try to get self-admission right off the bat when they suspect something like this. Pull you over for speeding? What's the first thing they do? Ask you if you know how fast you were going to try and get self admission. Pull you over for a DUI suspicion? Ask you if you've been drinking to get self admission.

The thought this cop was suspicious about her smoking pot in the car is obvious bullshit if one merely applies what the video shows and overlay it on Cop Procedure 101.
post #2679 of 6095
Autopsy of Sandra Bland Finds Injuries Consistent With Suicide, Prosecutor Says

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/24/us/autopsy-of-sandra-bland-finds-injuries-consistent-with-suicide-prosecutor-says.html

How shocking! Was anyone surprised by this?

I can see how the grieving family would be shocked and refuse to believe that their beloved had committed suicide.

But why would others doubt that it was suicide after the tape and info was released.
post #2680 of 6095
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Originally Posted by Nil View Post

Glad to see the officer got home safe.
You're only saying that because he's white.
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

The cop doesn't have his flashing lights on, but he's got his headlights on. You could argue the drunk jaywalker guy might have been more careful if he'd seen the flashers, on notice that the approaching car might be going faster than he expects, but he doesn't seem to have ever looked back.

A lot of blame to go around there.

Just for the novelty of it, I'm going to say that I agree with everything Ataturk says here.
post #2681 of 6095
Also, the source says the car he was pursuing was going 60 in a 35, not that the road where the accident happened was 35 mph. And it's pretty obviously at least four lanes, not two.
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Originally Posted by rnoldh View Post

Autopsy of Sandra Bland Finds Injuries Consistent With Suicide, Prosecutor SaysHow shocking! Was anyone surprised by this?

I can see how the grieving family would be shocked and refuse to believe that their beloved had committed suicide.

But why would others doubt that it was suicide after the tape and info was released.

Of course not. But absurdity is part of the formula for getting the best ratings out of racial cases. The activists will take any claims seriously, and everyone else gets invested in seeing the absurd claims eventually disproven. There's something for the mainstream left, too, who can always find something to latch onto in every case, whether it's gun laws in Florida, supposed racism in Ferguson, the cop abusing this poor lady for being rude to him, etc.
post #2682 of 6095
Fairly certain a civilian driving at 100 in a 35 wouldn't be given the benefit of a doubt about smashing into a pedestrian.

And this is all assuming the cop wasn't drunk, which he almost certainly was. Or high on the pot he just stole from a couple of black boys he caught driving with their music too loud earlier in his shift.
post #2683 of 6095
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

The cop doesn't have his flashing lights on, but he's got his headlights on. You could argue the drunk jaywalker guy might have been more careful if he'd seen the flashers, on notice that the approaching car might be going faster than he expects, but he doesn't seem to have ever looked back.

A lot of blame to go around there.

No one expects a vehicle to be coming at them at 100mph that's why the cops have sirens in the first place. Lots of sober people would have assumed they could make it across the street in time.
post #2684 of 6095
It's actually a wonder more people are not killed by driving while a cop.
post #2685 of 6095
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Originally Posted by Harold falcon View Post

Fairly certain a civilian driving at 100 in a 35 wouldn't be given the benefit of a doubt about smashing into a pedestrian.

And this is all assuming the cop wasn't drunk, which he almost certainly was. Or high on the pot he just stole from a couple of black boys he caught driving with their music too loud earlier in his shift.

This is all so unfair and defamatory. The Cop was likely just masturbating to some Christian Porn.
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