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post #256 of 6095
One of these days some of these dumb asses are going to enter a house like that and end up with a face full of buckshot Harvey. As far as I'm concerned each and every one of these incidents deserves a multimillion dollar civil suit.
post #257 of 6095
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Originally Posted by Crane's View Post

One of these days some of these dumb asses are going to enter a house like that and end up with a face full of buckshot Harvey. As far as I'm concerned each and every one of these incidents deserves a multimillion dollar civil suit.

that would only raise your taxes a lot, not stop the incidents from occuring.
post #258 of 6095
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Originally Posted by scarphe View Post

that would only raise your taxes a lot, not stop the incidents from occuring.

That's not necessarily true.
post #259 of 6095
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Originally Posted by Crane's View Post

One of these days some of these dumb asses are going to enter a house like that and end up with a face full of buckshot Harvey.
When that happens the citizen defending his home ends up being charged with assault or murder.
post #260 of 6095
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When that happens the citizen defending his home ends up being charged with assault or murder.

That's also not necessarily true.
post #261 of 6095
More on making unnecessary requests to the DHS to deal with libertarians domestic terrorists.


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Armored Vehicle Requested To Deal With Libertarians

You may have heard of the Free State Project. It’s a non-profit organization which has as its goal to bring 20,000 small government and liberty-minded citizens (libertarians, perhaps) to the state of New Hampshire. So far, about 14,000 people have signed up as members and have pledged to move to New Hampshire. About 1,200 have actually moved there, and they’ve already elected some two dozen of their members to the state legislature. They’re trying to concentrate all the small government activists in one low-population state to help bring about more meaningful change.

Well, the city of Concord, New Hampshire says they’re a domestic terrorist organization. In Concord’s application to Homeland Security to obtain a quarter-of-a-million dollar BEARCAT (Ballistic Engineered Armored Response Counter Attack) vehicle for their police department, the Free State Project was listed as one of the reasons they needed an armored vehicle.

“The State of New Hampshire’s experience with terrorism slants primarily towards the domestic type. We are fortunate that our State has not been victimized from a mass casualty event from an international terrorism strike; however, on the domestic front, the threat is real and here. Groups such as the Sovereign Citizens, Free Staters and Occupy New Hampshire are active and present daily challenges…. The type of vehicle needed would be capable of deploying bomb, HAZMAT, and special weapons personnel, equipped to detect chemical, biological, and radiological materials as well as explosive gases. This vehicle also needs armor properties to protect these personnel from explosions and hits from multiple projectiles when required to enter ‘hot zones.’ The Lenco ‘BearCat’ meets all these requirements.”

Never mind the fact that the city of Concord has had to endure all of two homicides in the past decade. Do they even need a police force, let alone a military-style armored vehicle? I guess those small government types are so dangerous, police just might have to deploy bombs on them. The city of Keene, New Hampshire already has a BEARCAT vehicle. They got theirs last year. One of the city council members there explained rather wryly the application process which allowed to get an armored vehicle:

“Our application talked about the danger of domestic terrorism, but that’s just something you put in the grant application to get the money. What red-blooded American cop isn’t going to be excited about getting a toy like this? That’s what it comes down to.”

Maybe that’s why they labeled Free Staters domestic terrorists. They’re trying to make it sound like they’ve got all these threats everywhere, and they need that toy tank. Just listen to how this council member in Keene reacted after it was finalized that they would be receiving a BEARCAT vehicle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jefLOFbdDHk




http://politicaloutcast.com/2013/08/armored-vehicle-requested-to-deal-with-libertarians/
post #262 of 6095
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Originally Posted by burningbright View Post

More on making unnecessary requests to the DHS to deal with libertarians domestic terrorists.
http://politicaloutcast.com/2013/08/armored-vehicle-requested-to-deal-with-libertarians/

 

Yep, America is fucked. Get out now.

post #263 of 6095
Anyone read the New Yorker's article on civil forfeiture? It's a pretty chilling piece about policing for profit and the arresting of necklaces.
post #264 of 6095
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Anyone read the New Yorker's article on civil forfeiture? It's a pretty chilling piece about policing for profit and the arresting of necklaces.

Scary stuff there. Just another example of state sanctioned extortion. Every one of these dirt bags needs to have everything they have seized and used for restitution to those they victimize. Then they should be charged under the RICO act and thrown away for a few hundred years.
post #265 of 6095
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Originally Posted by Crane's View Post

Scary stuff there. Just another example of state sanctioned extortion. Every one of these dirt bags needs to have everything they have seized and used for restitution to those they victimize. Then they should be charged under the RICO act and thrown away for a few hundred years.

+1
post #266 of 6095
Here's a surprising grand jury decision,

Grand Jury Decides Not to Charge Officer Who Fatally Shot Unarmed Youth in Bronx


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/09/nyregion/grand-jury-declines-to-indict-officer-in-death-of-unarmed-youth.html

I haven't followed nor was I aware of this case. It seems Officer Haste might have been quick on the trigger, but I wasn't there and don't know what happened.

In any event Ramarly Graham is dead! If Oprah compared the Trayvon case to the infamous Emmit Till case of the 1950s, I wonder what she will say about this case?

Also, Graham, who is now dead, was 18 years old and turned out not to have a weapon. I wonder why the Trayvon case became so big yet this case hasn't registered nearly as much.
post #267 of 6095
rnoldh, I hope you're not implying race had anything to do with it.

One other important difference is the use of a grand jury there, which is the body that refused to authorize charges. FLA bypassed the grand jury process in the Zimmerman case because they knew they'd never get an indictment.
post #268 of 6095
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rnoldh, I hope you're not implying race had anything to do with it.

One other important difference is the use of a grand jury there, which is the body that refused to authorize charges. FLA bypassed the grand jury process in the Zimmerman case because they knew they'd never get an indictment.

You and I know race had nothing to do with it.

But don't you see this case as a prime lead for the race baiting crowd?

And aren't you surprised that there was no indictment. I am ( though admittedly short of all the facts ).

Let's see if the race blind non-political DOJ gets involved in this case.
post #269 of 6095
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Originally Posted by BrooksLauren77 View Post

Its shit like this that makes me know I was born in the wrong generation. I'm trying not to care about any of this stuff but it gets to me.

I'm really scared for the future.

 
I really hope the Libertarian Party wins the 2016 federal election.

Are you really so naive that you think there was less abuse of authority by police in earlier generations, and somehow the Libertarian Party is magically going to make the problem go away?


This particular case has been discussed previously, but the part that has me nauseated with disgust is the fact that they just rehired the psycho cop who did the illegal searches and cost the state $184K in settlement costs:
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An illegal cavity search for marijuana, conducted in broad daylight on a public roadway in Texas, has caused other victims to come forward with allegations of unlawful misconduct by the officers involved. All cases currently being reported have been vaginal-anal cavity searches conducted by female Texas state troopers on female suspects. None of the women subjected to the cavity searches were suspected of any crime stronger than the alleged use of marijuana, and no arrests as a result of the searches was made.

Troopers report that all searches conducted have been fully submitted to by all victims. However, in at least one video recording, the audio reveals clear audio of the victim screaming as the search was being conducted.

Victims continue to come forward with lawsuits alleging the violation of personal civil rights. The aunt and niece victims of one incident have confirmed that the female troopers conducting the cavity searches on them both without changing gloves.

“They didn’t even search my socks or my shoes,” Aunt Ashley Dobbs said. “I just couldn’t fathom how you could search someone’s butt and their vagina, and not search their socks or shoes.”

Their lawsuit against against the Texas Dept. of Public Safety was successfully settled for a $184,000 suit, but this past week, TDPS Director Steve McCraw chose to rehire the female officer at the heart of the incident.

“It was determined that the relatively inexperienced trooper was directed by a more senior trooper to conduct the inappropriate search,” McCraw said in a statement issued late Friday afternoon. “While the actions of Trooper Bui constitute misconduct, I believe her actions are mitigated such that she should not be terminated from the agency.”

It is unknown at this time whether any TDPS action has been taken against the senior officer who directed the illegal search, or what plans the Department has to modify standard policies that support the use of these procedures statewide.

http://blog.sfgate.com/smellthetruth/2013/08/12/illegal-fully-public-cavity-search-for-marijuana-sparks-lawsuit-outrage-from-other-female-victims-of-common-state-trooper-procedures-in-texas/
post #270 of 6095
Update on the Toronto police shooting mentioned a few pages back. The police officer has been charged with second degree murder.
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