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post #2191 of 6081
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Originally Posted by otc View Post

There is a facebook post floating around from someone who lives in the neighborhood: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

No idea how accurate this is. The DJ in question has deleted all of the tweets about the event, claims to have simply been hired and paid to play (and not to have been promoting for the event). Has tweets saying things like "I try to be the best person I can be, but some people really test that" and "To many people try to go out of their way to destroy my career. Why? They can't even say. All I'm gonna say is, bring it on. #makeurownpath" as well as a retweet from the "CEO" of DallasRagers that says "I just really dislike being lied to, specially when it comes to business" (I think this came out before the event...but they sound like the sort of people who would throw illegal parties if there was money in it).

So who knows for sure what happened. What is clear is that this party was not supposed to be happening. It was in an HOA community and not open to the general public (and any event would presumably require reserving the pool and probably paying fees to the HOA).

Didn't help that the locals made comments like "Go back to your Section 8 home" in a community that has previously paid fines for blocking the construction of affordable housing...but I certainly wouldn't be happy if a bunch of non-residents (of any skin color) hopped the fence and started throwing a party in my condo building's pool.

The cops being called by the residents might be entirely warranted. No one in this thread seems to be disputing that, though I am aware that the initial perception was that it was only due to black kids being there that there was an issue. Regardless of all that, the asshole cop's behavior is an entirely separate matter that deserves criticism.
post #2192 of 6081

It's also pretty clear from this guys since deleted social media accounts that he was a total motard. 

post #2193 of 6081
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Originally Posted by suited View Post

Looks like he tripped to me, but I'm not certain. I think advancing on him in a aggressive manner could classify as provocation. Drawing his gun wasn't absolutely necessary, I'm not disputing that, but these teens were just as guilty of escalating the situation as the police officer was.

How is that even relevant? It is a complete false equivalency to compare civilian teens with an adult cop in regards to situation management.
post #2194 of 6081

If I were one of those kids and saw that cop pull his weapon and I was carrying... I might have shot the guy. 

 

Just kidding. But if you're going to draw your weapon you better damn well be ready to fire it. How would that have worked out in this situation? 

post #2195 of 6081
I don't know who said you should never draw your gun unless you're planning to fire it, since it's bad advice for anyone; but it clearly wasn't intended to apply to cops.

And, again, the cop had nine hostile people surrounding him when he drew the gun. For all we know he only did it to make sure one of them didn't grab it.
post #2196 of 6081
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

For all we know he only did it to make sure one of them didn't grab it.

 

lolwat. You are a fucking joke. 

post #2197 of 6081
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

How is that even relevant? It is a complete false equivalency to compare civilian teens with an adult cop in regards to situation management.

I don't think it's a matter of who should behave more responsibly, a police officer or a teenager. If it were, I would completely agree with you. If they had called him a pig and he reacted to that, then yeah, I would be making a false equivalency. But their actions were physical ones - resisting arrest, interfering with an officer in the process of making an arrest, advancing on him in an aggressive manner, etc.
post #2198 of 6081
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Originally Posted by ethanm View Post

lolwat. You are a fucking joke. 

If you want to just volunteer opinions without reasoning or arguments in support, you need to establish some reason to care what you think, first. Otherwise it's just noise.
post #2199 of 6081
You know, I've considered myself a law and order type of guy for the last 20 years or so, but this thread really has me shifting off that position. I've seen more police abuse in this thread, and read more apologies for out of control cops, than I thought ever possible.
post #2200 of 6081
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post


If you want to just volunteer opinions without reasoning or arguments in support, you need to establish some reason to care what you think, first. Otherwise it's just noise.


Nobody is going to penetrate your thick racist skull and berating you is way more satisfying so I'm going to continue to do it. You piece of shit. 

 

Enough reason for you? 

post #2201 of 6081
I don't know what's going on with all this here and what-not, but I am really hungry.
post #2202 of 6081
I'm disappointed to hear that you're satisfied with those posts, but, no, that's just more noise.
post #2203 of 6081
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post


. For all we know he only did it to make sure one of them didn't grab it.

Yeah a drawn weapon is way more secure than one secured in a hostler.
post #2204 of 6081
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

Yeah a drawn weapon is way more secure than one secured in a hostler.

Holsters don't "secure" guns. Some holsters have security measures that are intended to make it a little harder for someone to do it, but guns are still taken from cops' holsters all the time.
post #2205 of 6081

If Ataturk were on South Park he would be in the episode claiming that Hat killed those babies in self defense. What can you expect from a guy whose name is of a chauvinist dickhead though? 

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