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post #1981 of 6073
Law Enforcement officers beat their significant other at nearly double the national average. Several studies, according to Diane Wetendorf, author of Police Domestic Violence: Handbook for Victims, indicate that women suffer domestic abuse in at least 40 percent of police officer families. For American women overall, the figure is 25 percent, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

According to The Advocates for Human Rights Organization, studies indicate that police families are 2-4 times more likely than the general population to experience domestic violence, making the potential for disparities in protective success particularly troubling.

Historian John Emerich Edward Dalberg-Acton, has a famous quote, Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. This rings true through all levels of government ‘power,’ however it is particular prevalent among police officers.

Sociopaths are attracted to positions in which they are able to assert authority over others, so it should come as no surprise that there are higher concentrations of sociopaths within law enforcement.

The trouble with spousal abuse lies in the very nature of police work. The authority and control in the wrong hands, will be misused, according to domestic violence counselors.

Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cops-beat-wives-girlfriends-double-national-rate-receive-promotions/#2Pvhzk4iSGxDBXh4.99
post #1982 of 6073
40%, huh--are we defining domestic violence like we do rape now?
post #1983 of 6073
Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

40%, huh--are we defining domestic violence like we do rape now?

post #1984 of 6073
Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

40%, huh--are we defining domestic violence like we do rape now?

I would say the definition is secondary, and what's primary is, cops do it at twice the rate of the general population.
post #1985 of 6073
Their wives should really just stop resisting.
post #1986 of 6073
Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

Their wives should really just stop resisting.

Yeah, and all of the beaten wives were bimbos with multiple arrests. Good Christian wives were not beaten.
post #1987 of 6073
She reached for his remote, he had no choice but to deploy nonlethal force.
post #1988 of 6073
A cursory google search reveals that the author of the book cited counts "lying, isolation, interrogation, [and] surveillance" as domestic violence.


post #1989 of 6073
Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

A cursory google search reveals that the author of the book cited counts "lying, isolation, interrogation, [and] surveillance" as domestic violence.



And they do it at twice the rate of the general population. Very telling.
post #1990 of 6073
Anybody wanna bet whether "the free thought project dot com" actually made any effort to use comparable data?
post #1991 of 6073
Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

Anybody wanna bet whether "the free thought project dot com" actually made any effort to use comparable data?

Comparable data from what? The Police Union?
post #1992 of 6073
Earlier this year, Aaron Heuser of Eugene, Oregon, had to travel to Washington, D.C. The trip had two purposes: The 37-year-old mathematician was officially leaving his job at National Institutes of Health and starting a new position at a private firm. Since he is terrified of flying he booked himself a sleeper car on Amtrak. Upon reaching Reno, Nevada, there was an unexpected knock at his door. “There was a DEA badge on the window,” he said. “Having a good reason to be making this trip and being a law abiding citizen, I opened the door and politely asked if there was a problem. The officer asked if I was Aaron Heuser, and then asked to see my ticket. He then told me that there were many red flags on my trip, mainly that I had a sleeper car, was traveling alone, and did not check my luggage.”

A sleeper car is a main Amtrak product! Plenty of people travel alone! Why would anyone with a whole sleeper-car compartment to themselves go through the hassle of checking luggage?

Yet the harassment isn’t surprising.

For decades, law enforcement has tried to intercept drug couriers on Amtrak trains. These efforts have utterly failed to stop the easy availability of marijuana, cocaine, and other narcotics. Meanwhile they’ve violated the rights of countless Americans. Earlier this week, I highlighted the story of Joseph Rivers, a 22-year old black man who left his hometown in hopes of becoming a music-video producer. En route to L.A., the DEA boarded his Amtrak and seized his life savings, $16,000 in cash, even though there was apparently no evidence he’d committed a crime or possessed any drugs.

After reading my article Heuser contacted me to share his story.

The officer asked him why he was traveling, and at first seemed satisfied by his explanation. But he quickly changed his tone, began acting like he knew Heuser was guilty, and asked to search his room. Since Heuser had nothing to hide and felt intimidated a part of him wanted to comply. But as a fan of the ACLU and the son of hippie parents, he instead decided to assert his right to be free from unreasonable searches.

The DEA agent pressed the matter.

“After that he asked if he could bring a dog into my room to check out the bags, to which I again said ‘no,’” said Heuser, who hasn’t passed the bar but knows a little bit about Fourth Amendment law. “Finally he told me that he was going to bring a dog, walk it by my room, and that if alerted, my room would be searched. He told me that I could not argue this and that I was not allowed to be present for the search. His reasoning for violating my right to be present was that the dog might bite me.”

Forced to leave his room, he walked toward the dining car. En route another DEA agent tried to get him to step off the train where other law-enforcement officers were gathered. Heuser worried that if he got off the train they might not allow him back on before it left. “I asked if I was under arrest, and if I were free to go, then started walking to the dining car,” Heuser said. “The officer followed me, telling me that they know I am transporting drugs, and if I have any for personal use, they do not care, and it would be easier if I just told them. I said that was nice to know, then kept walking.”

Then a DEA agent lied in an attempt to gain permission to search the room.

“He told me that his partner could tell someone was hiding in my bathroom and wanted to check if anyone was in there,” Heuser recalls. “I told them that no police are allowed to enter, but if the conductor wants to enter and let them know that there is no one in the bathroom, it would be okay.” Minutes later, while Heuser was on his way back to his room, a DEA agent looked him in the eye and said, "You Oregonians may think that the green leafy stuff is harmless, but I know from my job that it kills people every day."

Finally Heuser stepped back into his room.

“I found my backpack moved and open, and my wallet, which was set down on the room table, had $60 missing,” he said. “I told one of the dining car attendants that I felt Amtrak and the DEA violated my rights. She told me that Amtrak is forced to give passenger info to Feds, that the DEA comes on every trip, usually arresting someone in the sleeping car or taking all their money. When I asked for her name in case I needed it later she refused and told me Amtrak would fire her.”

One needn’t rely on her hearsay.

Last year, the Associated Press reported that the DEA “paid an Amtrak secretary $854,460 over nearly 20 years to obtain confidential information about train passengers, which the DEA could have lawfully obtained for free through a law enforcement network.” (This was reportedly done so that the DEA could avoid sharing seized assets with Amtrak police, which hints at how lucrative such seizures are.)

Around the same time, the ACLU filed a Freedom of Information Act request after getting reports about Amtrak passengers having their rights violated. “This type of targeting constitutes a significant invasion of personal privacy,” an attorney wrote in the accompanying memo. “It suggests that Amtrak is sharing the travel-related data of thousands of its passengers who have engaged in no wrongdoing.”

Later an ACLU staffer reported on the results of the request. Amtrak employees are instructed to report conduct "indicative of criminal activity" to law enforcement.

Among them:

Unusual nervousness of traveler
Unusual calmness or straight ahead stare
Looking around while making telephone call(s)
Position among passengers disembarking (ahead of, or lagging behind passengers)
Carrying little or no luggage
Purchase of tickets in cash
Purchase tickets immediately prior to boarding
So to avoid getting hassled by the state, don’t act nervous, but don’t act too calm either. Don’t stare straight ahead unless you’re on the telephone, in which case don’t look around. And disembark right amidst all the other passengers with lots of luggage.

TLDR: Violate civil liberties for $800, please Alex.
post #1993 of 6073

Very professional.
post #1994 of 6073
I saw Joseph Rivers's story making the rounds. A quick google search reveals that he's an at least twice-convicted felon and probably got out of prison right around the time he decided to take his "life savings" in cash to California. He's also going around the internet begging people for money.

It's amazing that no one bothered to even do a cursory check on the guy before repeating his claims without question.

Edit: http://www.michbar.org/file/opinions/appeals/2013/052313/54682.pdf
Rather than “inflaming the prejudices of [the] jury,” as defendant describes that excerpt, the
prosecutor was highlighting inconsistencies in defendant’s testimony that tended to reflect poorly
on his credibility. Not only was the prosecutor’s summary of defendant’s testimony accurate,
but it also omitted defendant’s full response to Officer Logan, which was that he was bringing
groceries to his sick mother. Logan remarked to defendant that he was not carrying any
groceries, and defendant said he forgot them.
Defendant’s assertion that the prosecutor
“denigrate[d] [his] character” is unfounded. The prosecutor confined her comment on
defendant’s credibility to specific examples of inconsistency in his testimony, which is not a
question of character. “The prosecutor was permitted to argue from the facts that defendant . . .
[was] unworthy of belief.” Dobek, 274 Mich App at 67. Because an objection to that portion of
the prosecutor’s closing argument would likely have been overruled, defendant’s trial counsel
may have made the reasonable strategic decision not to object to not appear rude, or to not
receive an adverse ruling from the trial court in front of the jury. Appellate courts afford trial
counsel wide discretion in matters of trial strategy, and the effective assistance of counsel does
not require counsel to make futile objections. Unger, 278 Mich App at 256-257; Odom, 276
Mich App at 415. Thus, defense counsel was not ineffective for failing to object to the
prosecutor’s statement.

That's the genius that took all these internet crusaders for a ride.
post #1995 of 6073
Checking sources is a tool of the man to keep the truth out.
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