Originally Posted by Ataturk
Well, you're wrong. If they were going to gear up and SWAT your house they're going to do it anyway. They'll just wait 15 seconds, which means they won't have the element of surprise and they'll be even more trigger happy.
Originally Posted by Piobaire
I've been wrong before and I'll be wrong again. However I'm pretty comfortable erring on the side of leashing our overly gungho and paramilitary police forces. I'm also pretty happy to er on the side of liberty (going back to my first point which you ignored).
Rather than just conceding that cops are going to do whatever the fuck they want, maybe we should at least try
to restrain them at least a little bit. There are a LOT of paramilitary style raids in this country, way more than there used to be. This isn't inevitable (or certainly necessary). There's more that can be done than simply sighing and shrugging our shoulders at the issue.
Or we could, you know, drastically scale back the drug war and eliminate the driving force for the vast majority of it.
edit: Cato Institute has a really extensive white paper on the rise of paramilitary policing in the US. This is one of those rare sectors where libertarians and progressives overlap. I'm honestly surprised that more conservatives don't care about these issues, but apparently the "law and order" byline is very effective.