1) You originally said that if we looked at the data, we'd clearly see that there's no "epidemic" of police overreach & violence in minority (particularly black) communities. I was merely pointing out that the gesture was empty because there's no very reliable body of data for us to look at. So your entire gesture seems shaky at best, disingenuous at worst. Now you link to an article taking to task a statistical claim that was circulating around the internet. I never made that claim. So we're not exactly on the same two-way route: I was questioning something you said; you're questioning something only loosely affiliated with what I said.
2) I never said anything about problems within the black community. This isn't the "problems within the black community" thread. This is a thread about police overreach. So why is it that when we're virtually all in agreement that police overreach is a serious problem and one that the current judicial & political processes aren't curbing, when a largely black and poor community protests to say that it's a really bad problem in their neighborhood, the response suddenly is that they have bigger problems of their own? Do you think a racial community has to achieve some threshold of wealth/crime reduction for them to have any right to say that the police aren't treating them fairly?
Yes, obviously there are problems in black communities across America. Yes, solving those will require a lot more than curbing police overreach & improving community-police relations. But, from my perspective, you seem to be using these basic facts to suggest that only certain communities of American citizens get to complain about police violence & encroachment.Edited by erictheobscure - 12/4/14 at 12:43pm