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This one was an "accident".

The shooter, DeBlasio, and the NYPD Union Chief all say so icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif


Sure it was..


I was being sarcastic about the NYPD and DeBlasio in my post. But I do agree it was a horrible accident.
Do you or anyone think the inexperienced Vietnamese officer meant to execute the innocent black victim on purpose?
Or how would you descibe the incident if not as a horrible accident?
post #1097 of 6095
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I was being sarcastic about the NYPD and DeBlasio in my post. But I do agree it was a horrible accident.
Do you or anyone think the inexperienced Vietnamese officer meant to execute the innocent black victim on purpose?
Or how would you descibe the incident if not as a horrible accident?


Ironically, I believed you were quoting or meant the pig hitting the farejumping kid with the nightstick as an accident. My mistake.

post #1098 of 6095
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Originally Posted by rnoldh View Post

I was being sarcastic about the NYPD and DeBlasio in my post. But I do agree it was a horrible accident.
Do you or anyone think the inexperienced Vietnamese officer meant to execute the innocent black victim on purpose?
Or how would you descibe the incident if not as a horrible accident?

Why was the cop walking around with his gun out and finger on the trigger? From preliminary reports it looks like he got spooked by the sudden appearance of someone in the stairwell and pulled the trigger. That sounds more like willful negligence than an accident to me. If it was anyone else but a cop, that'd be a murder charge.
post #1099 of 6095
Just speculation, but, you know, maybe the cop had his gun drawn because he was doing one of those cop things where they go after criminals.
post #1100 of 6095
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

Just speculation, but, you know, maybe the cop had his gun drawn because he was doing one of those cop things where they go after criminals.

So why don't they always carry gun in hand? Is it because it's hard to hold a cell phone, coffee and gun at same time?
post #1101 of 6095
It sounds like the cops weren't actively pursuing any criminals, merely going on a "vertical patrol" of the apartment complex. I don't see how that necessitates walking around with a gun in their hand and their finger on the trigger. There really is no such thing as an accidental discharge; if it's a modern, well maintained firearm, they don't fire unless you pull the trigger. That's not an accident, that's how a gun works. That's why one of the first rules of firearm safety is keeping your damn finger off the trigger unless you're going to shoot.
post #1102 of 6095
A car doesn't drive unless you push the gas and turn the wheel, but there's still a lot of car accidents. Saying something was an accident doesn't preclude the possibility that it was also negligent.

Like I said, I don't know anything about the circumstances of that shooting. If the cop really was just walking around with his gun drawn and pointed at people, that would be bizarre.
post #1103 of 6095
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A car doesn't drive unless you push the gas and turn the wheel, but there's still a lot of car accidents. Saying something was an accident doesn't preclude the possibility that it was also negligent.

Like I said, I don't know anything about the circumstances of that shooting. If the cop really was just walking around with his gun drawn and pointed at people, that would be bizarre.

No one claimed he was pointing the gun at people.
post #1104 of 6095
It's kind of implied, isn't it?
post #1105 of 6095
Police in Cleveland roll up on 12 year old boy, blast him before he could reach his toy heater.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/27/us/video-shows-cleveland-officer-shot-tamir-rice-2-seconds-after-pulling-up-next-to-him.html?_r=0
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So why don't they always carry gun in hand? Is it because it's hard to hold a cell phone, coffee and gun at same time?

you forgot the essential doughnut.
post #1107 of 6095
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Police in Cleveland roll up on 12 year old boy, blast him before he could reach his toy heater.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/27/us/video-shows-cleveland-officer-shot-tamir-rice-2-seconds-after-pulling-up-next-to-him.html?_r=0

This is horrible, but there are 12 year olds who are in gangs, and Tamir Rice removed the orange tip on the barrel. There is no instant replay in this situation, and you can't call the bullets back. In the old days, rifles had a cork and string and guns had caps. Now the guns are so realistic, its almost impossible to know what you're looking at. Perhaps this could have been prevented had the cops given better warnings or signals at the outset, but what do I know? I'm sitting in front of a computer eating animal crackers.
post #1108 of 6095
The Tamir Rice case is a thousand times worse than the Mike Brown case.

It's unfortuneate that people jumped on the Mike Brown Ferguson bandwagon now that it has been thoroughly discredited.
post #1109 of 6095
Twelve isn't too young to know that replica would be mistaken for the real thing. And the video corroborates the cops' claim that he was trying to draw it when he was shot.

Cases like this make you really wish that black people really did have "the talk" with their kids. I still remember how hard my mother tried to impress on me not to point my plastic cap gun at anyone who didn't know it was a toy. And I might have been four years old at the time.
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