Guys, are those Tyrwhitt classic collars kinda short and straight-pointed, or is it just an illusion? I saw numerous Tyrwhitt pics and the collar points never seem to be hidden under the suit jacket, what bothers me the most. T.M. Lewin classic collar appears to be far wider, a bit of semi-spread, and those collar points are never shown...
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Charles Tyrwhitt Reviews and Fitting - Page 3post #32 of 5672/22/13 at 10:08pmQuote:Originally Posted by dustygator
Charles Tyrwhitt Extra Slim Fit shirts aren't that slim at all. I am a fairly skinny guy by all accounts (5'8, 135) but the 15/33 ESF shirt I ordered fits like a burlap slack. Just measuring the chest (pit-to-pit) is ~18" across the front. The waist at the second to last button is ~16.5-17". A 2-3 inch drop is not anywhere close to extra slim IMO. That being said, I paid something like $29 after shipping with a promo code and the quality for that price is fantastic.
Wow... you say CT Extra Slim Fit fits like a burlap sack? Gain some weight, bro! I'm 5'10", 190 lbs., athletic/muscular build, wear a 16/34 and find the CT ESF way too tight in the chest, shoulders, and arms. Slim Fit is much better for me.Quote:
+1Quote:Originally Posted by Mulp
Their collars are probably their defining characteristic, their collars are very stiff, you wont be let down.
I have 10-20 ct shirts and ive found that their tailored (extra slim) shirts fit me quite well. i am 5'7 150lbs with an athletic build, 15/33 left maybe an inch on both side of extra space, it could be taken in a little more but i havent found any BB shirts to fit this well fwiw.
One inch extra on each side, and you'd consider having them taken in even more? Don't be so obsessed with a skin-tight fit: http://putthison.com/post/39574940145/sit-down-in-your-shirt-when-out-trying-onQuote:Originally Posted by bjornb17
I love CT shrits, especially the non-iron variety. Two things I've noticed about their shirts - the collars tend to shrink about half an inch, and the sleeves tend to be about an inch shorter than their US counterparts. So, a 16.5 34 might be the way to go and those are pretty proportional sizes. As a frame of reference, I'm 6'0 and 200 lbs with a 42" chest and 16.5/35 slim fits fit me perfectly. I can wear a size 16 shirt and it will look good but it can become distractingly snug throughout the day especially after a big lunch.
Huh? I've owned almost a dozen non-iron CT shirts and haven't noticed any collar shrinkage whatsoever. Nor have the sleeves been shorter than advertised. Collars and sleeves on their non-iron shirts are TTS in my experience, with no noticeable shrinkage whatsoever (I machine dry on low).Quote:
Dang. I'm 5'10" 190ish and wear 16/34 in CT slim fit. Fit is great for me: slim and clean; not tight.
Edited by Flyswatter - 2/23/13 at 1:56pmpost #33 of 5672/22/13 at 10:09pmpost #34 of 5672/23/13 at 2:06am
I have a number of CT shirts. At 5'9 and 175 pounds I find a 16 inch neck in the slim fit reasonably slim although I get a bit of excess fabric at the waist and have considered trying out the extra slim fit to see if it's too skin tight or just right. Given that my CT shirts are under a suit jacket the vast majority of the time, a bit of comfort in exchange for a little extra fabric is not really a problem, I'm not going out clubbing in them and the fit is otherwise good. It's probably be perfect if they had a size 15.75 below the 16 (the 15.5 inch neck will be too small), and actually the lack of quarter-inch (or 1cm) increments on the collar is my only major knock on CT shirts, especially since they allow you to choose the sleeve length which is great for me since I have shortish arms... 16/34 is not unusual but at the same time an awful lot of shirtmakers will go longer than that with the sleeves on a 15.75 or 16 inch collar shirt.
I think they have good fabric and construction for the price (most of mine are from their Sea Island range when they have been on sale more than the usual "sale" prices). I like that they come with brass collar stiffeners rather than flimsy plastic ones I have received with far higher quality shirts, and as mentioned before I like that you can choose your own sleeve length (and type of cuff).
My only other criticism is that the colour range can be lacking, especially in their egyptian cotton/sea island ranges (it kind of feels like anything you want as long as it's white or blue). I wouldn't mind a dove grey, for example, but I don't think I've ever seen one when I've perused their site.post #35 of 5672/23/13 at 6:06amQuote:
hmm, thats odd considering really the only difference is in the waist due to the darts. doesn't look like any change in the arms or shoulders:post #36 of 5672/23/13 at 7:09ampost #37 of 5672/23/13 at 7:20amQuote:
You comment seems corroborated by the measurements given at http://www.shirtdetective.com/ (I think of my fewer than 20 posts I've mentioned this link 5 or 6 times, and probably all in threads which at least mention CT - someone here posted it a while back which is how I know about it. More to the point: do people not use google to try to look up shirt measurements, and instead ask a stranger whose body shape/type they don't know on the internet how the shirts fit and use that to guess? Seems crazy. Someone else's height and weight and fit experience tell you nothing about how a shirt might fit you.)post #38 of 5672/23/13 at 7:28amQuote:
I don't have the actual chest measurement, as the chart indicates that it is to fit a chest of a certain size, but the extra slim does fit tighter in the chest. The old measurement chart showed this. The above diagram also shows no chest difference for classic fit, which is categorically wrong.post #39 of 5672/23/13 at 10:35amQuote:Quote:Originally Posted by msulinski
I don't have the actual chest measurement, as the chart indicates that it is to fit a chest of a certain size, but the extra slim does fit tighter in the chest. The old measurement chart showed this. The above diagram also shows no chest difference for classic fit, which is categorically wrong.
Yep, the CT 'extra slim fit' is definitely slimmer in the chest, shoulders, and arms compared to 'slim fit'. It's annoying that they changed the measurement chart to show "fits chest size" instead of the actual garment chest measurement, as it used to. And I agree that the overlay diagram of the three fits is completely useless and misleading.
Edited by Flyswatter - 2/23/13 at 1:59pmpost #40 of 5672/23/13 at 12:56pmpost #41 of 5672/23/13 at 1:24pmQuote:
Nonsense. You have been severely misinformed by that CT rep. (Unless they've recently changed the fit of all their cuts, which is highly unlikely and would be stupid and extremely aggravating as I just placed an order for four shirts.)
Anyway, check out these videos on the Charles Tyrwhitt YouTube channel:
From the slim fit video: "This shirt is slimmer in the chest, waist, and hips than our classic fit shirts."
From the tailored (aka "extra slim") fit video: "Slimmer on the chest, waist, and hips than our slim and classic fit shirts..."post #42 of 5672/23/13 at 1:33pmpost #43 of 5672/23/13 at 1:52pmQuote:
Yep, returns are free and easy, though from my experience shipping things back to them from the U.S., transit time is 2-3 weeks plus another week for them to process it.
It's hard to judge the fit of the extra slim in the video without knowing the model's measurements or what size he's wearing. Either way, between extra slim and slim, I'm sure you'll find something that fits. I've been mostly happy with my CT shirts overall. I particularly like their non-iron spread collar shirts.post #44 of 5672/23/13 at 7:51pmQuote:
Ive been buying the twill. Its really a judgment call. twill is naturally non-iron and poplin needs to be treated with chemicals to be non-iron so may lose that characteristic after many cycles.
http://www.ctshirts.com/men's-shirts/men's-dress-shirts/White-twill-non--iron-slim-fit-shirt?q=usddefault||FN017WHT|||||4363,1607,||||||||post #45 of 5672/23/13 at 8:18pmQuote:Originally Posted by Flyswatter
Wow... you say CT Extra Slim Fit fits like a burlap sack? Gain some weight, bro! I'm 5'10", 190 lbs., athletic/muscular build, wear a 16/34 and find the CT ESF way too tight in the chest, shoulders, and arms. Slim Fit is much better for me.
One inch extra on each side, and you'd consider having them taken in even more? Don't be so obsessed with a skin-tight fit: http://putthison.com/post/39574940145/sit-down-in-your-shirt-when-out-trying-on
Huh? I've owned almost a dozen non-iron CT shirts and haven't noticed any collar shrinkage whatsoever. Nor have the sleeves been shorter than advertised. Collars and sleeves on their non-iron shirts are TTS in my experience, with no noticeable shrinkage whatsoever (I machine dry on low).
Dang. I'm 5'10" 190ish and wear 16/34 in CT slim fit. Fit is great for me: slim and clean; not tight.
I personally hang dry my shirts - but I must clarify my statement. The NISF shirts shirt very slightly, it is the must iron ones that shrink much more noticeably.
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