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How to pair a tie (and pocket square) with a chalk stripe suit

post #1 of 8
Thread Starter 

So I have a few questions...

 

I bought a chalk stripe suit and I'm a bit confused about how to pair a tie with it.  This is the suit I got...
http://www.trashness.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/LBM-1911-Chalk-Stripe-four-in-hand-knot-dotted.jpg

https://korvue.haberdashmen.com/userfiles/products/list/00471_3470navy.jpg

 

In generally I will wear this a bit more casually... (often without a tie or with a less formal tie)

 

 

1.What do I look for in a tie to ensure that it doesn't clash with my suit?

 

I'm quite a fan of this look.... 

http://www.gq.com/images/entertainment/2013/01/bill-murray/bill-murray-300.jpg

(Sorry, I know how much you all dislike GQ)

 

2.Can I pair a tie like that with my suit?

 

 

As for pocket squares J.Crew has a nice white linen pocket square (navy tipped).  

3.Do I want to avoid a PS with blue in it?

 

 

4.Finally what's the deal with bowties and chalk stripe suits?  Is that a no no?  I never seem to see them paired.

 

Thanks!

Andrew

post #2 of 8
No, that suit doesn't work with a thin, knit tie - the former is too formal. For the same reason, that's why (good observation) bowties and chalk stripe suits "never seem... paired."

A pocket square that's mostly white with blue edges (if that is what "tipped" means) should be okay with a navy suit. That points to something that probably need not be said - a mostly blue tie usually looks bad with a mostly blue suit. Also, graphic ties are unlikely to work with conservative suits.
post #3 of 8
What you have there is a classic cold-weather business suit. It's a bit less formal than a ropestripe suit, but not much below. The blue end-on-end shirt in that picture is perfect with that suit. Knitted ties don't go well with business suits to me, but if you'd like something similar get a navy grenadine tie. Grenadine ties are much more formal and are better with a chalkstripe suit. I'm fine with a navy tie and a navy suit together. It's fine to wear a pocket square with some blue in it, but navy around the edge will just blend in with the suit.
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Thanks to both of you for your replies.  I bought it because it was VERY heavily discounted and it's really a very nice suit.  I'd like to dress it down a bit if possible.  Any good ways to do that?  Also how do you guys feel about patterned shirts and ties with that suit?  Perhaps a salmon gingham with a sold colored tied for example?

post #5 of 8
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Originally Posted by Andrew Viny View Post

Thanks to both of you for your replies.  I bought it because it was VERY heavily discounted and it's really a very nice suit.  I'd like to dress it down a bit if possible.  Any good ways to do that?  Also how do you guys feel about patterned shirts and ties with that suit?  Perhaps a salmon gingham with a sold colored tied for example?

Why buy the thing without really understanding what you have bought and its restrictions? Such a suit will not "dress down" and your wardrobe seems unable to cope with it.

"VERY heavily discounted" and useful do not necessarily go hand in hand.
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Why buy the thing without really understanding what you have bought and its restrictions? Such a suit will not "dress down" and your wardrobe seems unable to cope with it.

"VERY heavily discounted" and useful do not necessarily go hand in hand.

In all honesty you're right... but it's gorgeous and for 95% of the (few) events in my life that I must wear a suit for it will be fine.  I'll wear a dressier tie as you suggest.  I'm 21 years old, it's a suit that's built to last and a style that isn't going to look dated any time soon.  I paid $300 for it, it looks great on me, and I'll wear it as much as I can.  Just trying now to learn how to make it work as well as humanly possible.

post #7 of 8
If you wanted something more versatile you should go with a solid colour, then the options for shirt and tie patterns open up. Unfortunately for your selection, solid shirts are probably best so you avoid being too busy.
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Originally Posted by Andrew Viny View Post

Thanks to both of you for your replies.  I bought it because it was VERY heavily discounted and it's really a very nice suit.  I'd like to dress it down a bit if possible.  Any good ways to do that?  Also how do you guys feel about patterned shirts and ties with that suit?  Perhaps a salmon gingham with a sold colored tied for example?

Chalkstripes don't dress down very well. I'm not sure a salmon-coloured shirt would work (not really sure what it goes with), but pink and lilac are nice with navy. But pretty much anything that I can think of to go with that suit would be a business look. For shirts: solids, end-on-ends or narrow stripes (narrower than a bengal stripe). Checked shirts and striped suits don't really match. If you want to wear a knitted tie with it, you can. James Bond did: http://thesuitsofjamesbond.com/?p=19. But it doesn't really go with a business suit very well; it's just a Bond quirk that was written in the novels and made it to just a few films. And it doesn't dress the suit down either. You'd do best saving the suit for daytime functions when the weather is cool enough.
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