Horrified: dress shirt + sweater + suit?

cataan · Feb 13, 2013

Saw this yesterday: guy wearing a slim fit suit (slim lapels and the jacket only went down to his hips - looked somewhat feminine if you ask me) with dress shirt (French cuffs) and a v-neck sweater. The shirt's cuffs ended at his palm, then the sweater's sleeve ended above his wrist, and then the end of the jacket's sleeve ended about an inch above the sweater's sleeve, leading me to believe this was an intentionally designed disaster. I didn't know whether to vomit, laugh, or punch the guy in the face.

Cant kill da Rooster · Feb 13, 2013

I would call that an overreaction. Might want to try some new meds.

mcbrown · Feb 13, 2013

Well, I can't speak to the fit of the ensemble, but wearing a sweater with a suit is hardly worth a punch in the face:

biged781 · Feb 13, 2013

Yeah... I don't understand the problem. So you don't like fashion forward suits. Ok, hardly worth such a reaction. You don't like the way that the cuffs looked. Ok, again, not that big of a deal. But you flat out hate sweaters over a collared shirt under a jacket? I disagree 100%, it looks good if the color is right.

cataan · Feb 13, 2013

Are those suits or sport coats with slacks (that's fine, I wear a sweater with a sport coat fairly often). The first pic looks like a sport coat. Regarding the person I saw, it looked like he was wearing his kid brother's clothes. A man's jacket should not end at his hips (it should cover a portion of the pant's seat) and when the elbow is bent the sleeve should not end halfway down his forearm.

biged781 · Feb 13, 2013

cataan said:
Are those suits or sport coats with slacks (that's fine, I wear a sweater with a sport coat fairly often). The first pic looks like a sport coat. Regarding the person I saw, it looked like he was wearing his kid brother's clothes. A man's jacket should not end at his hips (it should cover a portion of the pant's seat) ...

Classically, yes, but your notion of what looks good is not everyone's. Have you seen the more fashionable jackets lately? They are all short, tight, and have slim lapels. You may not like it (I'm not a fan myself), but this stuff is subjective, there is no "one true style".

manchambo · Feb 13, 2013

I don't have any major problem with the sweater and suit, but french cuffs and a sweater is a disaster. Did anyone else notice that the father of the slain fifteen year old girl who say next to Michelle Obama last night was sporting that look? I know it makes me a fairly evil person, but I can't help critiquing in my mind even in that situation.

Thomas · Feb 13, 2013

oh, so it was a matter of poor fit, then. I understand that a bit better, and sweater/suit/shirt.

Unless the sweater was over the suit jacket. Then I kind of worry.

mcbrown · Feb 13, 2013

cataan said:
Are those suits or sport coats with slacks (that's fine, I wear a sweater with a sport coat fairly often). The first pic looks like a sport coat. Regarding the person I saw, it looked like he was wearing his kid brother's clothes. A man's jacket should not end at his hips (it should cover a portion of the pant's seat) and when the elbow is bent the sleeve should not end halfway down his forearm.

Can't be sure about the first, but the second is certainly a suit.

Anyway, it sounds like your reaction was to the fit more than the combination of sweater and suit. From your description, it sounds horrid, though sadly not out of line with current fashion (shudder).

MikeDT · Feb 13, 2013

cataan said:
Are those suits or sport coats with slacks (that's fine, I wear a sweater with a sport coat fairly often). The first pic looks like a sport coat. Regarding the person I saw, it looked like he was wearing his kid brother's clothes. A man's jacket should not end at his hips (it should cover a portion of the pant's seat) and when the elbow is bent the sleeve should not end halfway down his forearm.

Have you been living in a cave or on a desert island for the last ten years?

AdvisorJesse · Feb 13, 2013

If the shirt sleeves went to his palms that is a problem. But it is more of a fit problem. I find a v-neck sweater under a suit is a great way to stay warm.

As for the suit jacket length... don't be afraid of new trends hitting the men's market. Classic fitting suits are being replaced by younger, leaner, shaped suit jackets.

RSS · Feb 13, 2013

cataan said:
I didn't know whether to vomit, laugh, or punch the guy in the face.

Sartorial choices don't generally elicit such a strong reaction from me. That said, I probably would not have cared much for what was being worn.

archibaldleach · Feb 13, 2013

biged781 said:
Classically, yes, but your notion of what looks good is not everyone's. Have you seen the more fashionable jackets lately? They are all short, tight, and have slim lapels. You may not like it (I'm not a fan myself), but this stuff is subjective, there is no "one true style".

There's a reason that fashion changes every 6 months or so. Designers want to make people feel like they need to buy new clothes. The real question is how many of these ridiculous fashions last in their extreme form. Not many.

RSS · Feb 13, 2013

biged781 said:
...this stuff is subjective, there is no "one true style".

There is a line in Mona Lisa Smile: "It's not art until the right people say it's art." Well, the playing field may be a lot more level than it was back in the 50s ... and many of us may not give a d*mn what others think ... but to some degree this is still true ... be it art or clothing.

VinnyMac · Feb 13, 2013

The fit (as described) seems pretty bad, but I don't see a problem with suit, shirt and sweater combos.

As far as the last part of your post goes, if you were man enough to do that, then you would have done it instead of trotting home like a fairy to your computer. Boy, you're so witty and tough. I'll bet that that you couldn't wait to start this thread. How about you post some pictures of your suits? Please, show us how it's done.

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