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post #76 of 760
i was meh on this episode. too many scenes felt slow and muddy.
post #77 of 760
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yep. pete's affair seems more interesting than Don's at this point.

Were Don's ever interesting? He seems to sleep with whatever's around. Pete's is amusing because how clumsy he is. Wife hooks him up with a stay out of jail free card and he fucks it up.
post #78 of 760
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Were Don's ever interesting? He seems to sleep with whatever's around. Pete's is amusing because how clumsy he is. Wife hooks him up with a stay out of jail free card and he fucks it up.

Was this ever explicit at any point on the show until last night?
post #79 of 760
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I disagree though. Pete was never happy with Trudy, I think he was (and still may be) in love with Peggy. Don.....disfunctional in every way with women but with Megan he seemed to be totally into her. Remember him lecturing Pete on "having it all and not wanting to mess it up"? To me it just seemed like he lost respect or something when she was crying because he wanted her to do it on her own, and when he helped her I think he just saw that she was like every other women.
I don't know, maybe I'm looking too deeply into it.

When he found Megan drunk that one evening and she said that was all she was good for, that was the last straw. It was Betty all over again.

Campbell has been trying to be Draper since the first episode of the first season when he was the Bob Benson of this season trying to chum up with his idol. It was some blue joke about secretaries and then some candid disclosure he wanted to be like him. Then he got Clearasil (walks into Draper's office to talk about self-worth and status). Then Draper flattered him when he gave the speech in his flat about why he needs him in the new firm. And then Draper paid for his junior partner's additional investment into the firm when it was floundering after Lucky Strike. Further to that, Campbell was yearning for Draper's advice after the fight with Lane Pryce in the lift. So whether Draper likes it or not he reluctantly is carrying a sycophant with him, or best case, a protégé.

I can see Peggy going back to Draper one day if Chaough forces her to do things she doesn't want to do.
post #80 of 760
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I can see Peggy going back to Draper one day if Chaough forces her to do things she doesn't want to do.

Peggy's talks with Stan always make me chuckle. laugh.gif
post #81 of 760
Stan has replaced Harry as my favorite secondary character.
post #82 of 760
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Was this ever explicit at any point on the show until last night?

No. And that's why MM is a good show; people have to actually pay attention and think about the unsaid or be able to figure things out like Sally's new friend. If you're stuck at the concrete operational phase this show will frustrate you.
post #83 of 760
What does Pete bring to the table for Trudy?

She was the one with money and they were already engaged before he had any semblance of power.
post #84 of 760
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Stan has replaced Harry as my favorite secondary character.

Personally, I miss Lane

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What does Pete bring to the table for Trudy?

Nothing. And she knows it. It's why she gave him the fuck pad. Now it just remains to come out who she's nailing... Cuz you know she is. In her world its the appearance that mattered more than the substance. Now that Pete has destroyed it, he's useless.
post #85 of 760
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Personally, I miss Lane.

Lane knocking Pete to the ground was one of the show's finest moments. Shame about how he ended up, though.
post #86 of 760
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Lane knocking Pete to the ground was one of the show's finest moments. Shame about how he ended up, though.

I see no reason for writing him off. He was a great character. As well as Sal, shame he never came back.
post #87 of 760
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What does Pete bring to the table for Trudy?

She was the one with money and they were already engaged before he had any semblance of power.
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Nothing. And she knows it. It's why she gave him the fuck pad. Now it just remains to come out who she's nailing... Cuz you know she is. In her world its the appearance that mattered more than the substance. Now that Pete has destroyed it, he's useless.

As usual, wrong.

His pedigree. His mother is a Dykeman, of THE Dykeman family that owned most of upper Manhattan prior to the 1929 crash. While Pete's father managed to squander the remaining family wealth Pete went to all the right schools, including Dartmouth, summered in all the right places and hung out in all the right country clubs as a kid. Trudy's family is new money so they have that age old alliance going of a pedigree family on hard times marrying into a wealthy social climbing family.
post #88 of 760
idfnl's explanation doesn't even make sense.

Why give him the apartment if he brings nothing to the table? Clearly he had something (the old family ties) for her to prefer he stick around.
post #89 of 760
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idfnl's explanation doesn't even make sense.

Why give him the apartment if he brings nothing to the table? Clearly he had something (the old family ties) for her to prefer he stick around.

Remember when he was trying to pick up that high school girl (and failed, lulz) in driver's ed? He took her to some park and there was a statute of when of his ancestors. Think the park was named for that person too.
post #90 of 760
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idfnl's explanation doesn't even make sense.

Why give him the apartment if he brings nothing to the table? Clearly he had something (the old family ties) for her to prefer he stick around.

In my opinion she gave him the apartment because there was no real relationship, just a shell. My point was he has no value to her now since he's wrecked the family's reputation. Notice I said "Now that Pete has destroyed it [reputation], he's useless". Trudy needed the reputation above all else. Now its gone.

In essence, my comment was directed at the new reality for the couple and the change in dynamics brought on by the latest episode. In my opinion his value is gone. I thought my post's current state intent was obvious, and viewed thru that context I believe it makes perfect sense.
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