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Campbell landed North American Aviation which I think at the time was going into the low millions range from "cocktail napkins". To the firm at the time sans Lucky Strike it was a big loss. These days they lost Vick, dumped Ocean Spray and that was 8 + 2m and then Draper got Sunkist for 8m with a phone call.

I still don't buy this California and the West Coast is freedom and everything but then I am not from the west.

You do not have to be from the west. In fact, it's better if you're not, as it's the mythos that people are seeking. Hell, even Canada has it still. I can't tell you the number of people I knew growing up in southern Ontario that headed out west to find their life's adventure.
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Campbell landed North American Aviation which I think at the time was going into the low millions range from "cocktail napkins". To the firm at the time sans Lucky Strike it was a big loss. These days they lost Vick, dumped Ocean Spray and that was 8 + 2m and then Draper got Sunkist for 8m with a phone call.

I still don't buy this California and the West Coast is freedom and everything but then I am not from the west.

it happens in hollywood a lot. think about all the top comedians, writers, who come from boston or new york. this may be a wiener theme too, because in his dealings with HBO (a NYC centric outfit) - HBO showrunner of a major show may be a prestigious position but its also a crowded one (think about how much power Chase and Simon had over the sopranos/wire). California represents pioneer country where you can stake a claim without having to be a made guy.

Wiener tried unsuccessfully to get Mad men on HBO (damn it wouldve been awesome to see Jan halloway/trudy cambel, betty draper bewbage). So he had to go west (after the pilot) for filming of the show.
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that was my feeling as well, which made me feel like a scene got cut or something. I thought that LA was going to be one person only. As well, I made a comment last week on how Pete handled the Bob Benson thing and many here felt that he was going to use the secret to keep Bob under his thumb. I didn't feel that way, and clearly this week it proved that Bob is not afraid of Pete.
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I got the impression that Pete might have been forced out at SC&P - Trudy's comment "you're free of them too."
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I still don't buy this California and the West Coast is freedom and everything but then I am not from the west.

Having grown up in the Mad Men era right outside of NYC and moved to the SF Bay Area in 1970 I can tell you that many of that generation looked to California (both North and South) as a place that offered freedom of certain traditions and affordable living options. I spent my summers in the Midwest and the feeling was there as well. It wasn't just people wanting to escape Manhattan.

In addition to the issues of urban decay in the major Eastern cities there was also the glamorization of California in music (Beach Boys, etc.) Disneyland, Hollywood. But the reality was that it really was an amazing, cool time to be in California. Look at all the creativity that was launched from that era. And, the babes.......
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Not sure yet what to make of all that. I'm going to wait for Stitches to comment first. wink.gif

smile.gif sup' buddy?

i thought it was a fantastic episode, filled with change. even rogers office was totally different.

the whole thing with petes mom was crazy. interesting way to get her off the show. she was amusing, but also a giant PIA.

bob pwning pete with the manual trasmission was hilarious, but i dont know why pete was so foolish. there is no way he could not have found a way to talk himself out of that. chevy seems like a hell of a client lol. and bob is everywhere.

peggy dressed as a sloot was interesting.

dons taking the kids to his house seemed to be mostly for sally, based off of their non verbal exchange. i wonder if that will have the effect he desires.

was pretty surprised he got shit-canned, or so it seems anyways. the glance from roger was particularly sad, they were the best of buds early on, and you could tell roger felt bad about the decision. burt is bad ass. always liked that dude. i never liked duck and i was kinda annoyed that he got that proverbial nut shot to don, but so it is.

im not sure if i feel bad for don or not. hard to say that he didnt bring it all upon himself, but i do find myself rooting for him. im very excited to see what next season brings.
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It is certainly interesting that they basically removed him when before in the Sterling Cooper days no one was interested in the company unless Don Draper was attached. As far as firing him, they clearly did that but he is still a partner and I would assume they would have to buy him out. Pete too, I really wish they resolved that or were more clear at least. I wonder if he resigned?
Was pissed off at Joan not meeting his eyes, he backed her when she needed it. And also, Roger has his professional life together now (much prefer his office now then the stark white) but no one canned him after he lost lucky strike.

I can't understand why they turned their backs on Don when clearly that admission about his childhood was a reach out. Certainly his past conduct set up the firing but that just seems to me a weak reason.

Definitely good move on Don's part to show where he came from to his kids. Not sure if it was an apology to Sally or an attempt to manipulate her, I'm hoping that he saw it as an opportunity to help her (and him) understand why he does the things he does.

As for Megan, divorce?
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smile.gif sup' buddy?

i thought it was a fantastic episode, filled with change. even rogers office was totally different.

the whole thing with petes mom was crazy. interesting way to get her off the show. she was amusing, but also a giant PIA.

bob pwning pete with the manual trasmission was hilarious, but i dont know why pete was so foolish. there is no way he could not have found a way to talk himself out of that. chevy seems like a hell of a client lol. and bob is everywhere.

peggy dressed as a sloot was interesting.

dons taking the kids to his house seemed to be mostly for sally, based off of their non verbal exchange. i wonder if that will have the effect he desires.

was pretty surprised he got shit-canned, or so it seems anyways. the glance from roger was particularly sad, they were the best of buds early on, and you could tell roger felt bad about the decision. burt is bad ass. always liked that dude. i never liked duck and i was kinda annoyed that he got that proverbial nut shot to don, but so it is.

im not sure if i feel bad for don or not. hard to say that he didnt bring it all upon himself, but i do find myself rooting for him. im very excited to see what next season brings.
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they do have to buy them out, or keep sending them checks. that will be neat to see how they figure that out.

no idea what is going to be with megan, i dont think they are a great couple anyways.

i want to believe that he was truly reaching out to his kids, and sally in particular. the way he did it, and the glance he gave her, seemed more genuine than manipulative to me.
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How good was this season?
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i would say very good. smile.gif
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smile.gif sup' buddy?

Not much, just another Monday here. You?

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im not sure if i feel bad for don or not. hard to say that he didnt bring it all upon himself, but i do find myself rooting for him. im very excited to see what next season brings.

Don Draper brought nothing onto himself. It was Dick Whitman that ultimately fucked Don.
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Not much, just another Monday here. You?

same thing. just chillin.
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Don Draper brought nothing onto himself. It was Dick Whitman that ultimately fucked Don.

its always those dicks doing all the fucking.
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I had a neighbor who died of a sudden heart attack. Turns out his wife, son and all his friends found out he had been living a lie with a totally false history. (he had been married previously, had other kids, other jobs and masterfully kept it all a secret). Not just his immediate family, but all of his friends and business associates hated the guy for lying. They all felt cheated and that they had been played for fools. For this reason, I can't help but feel there will be a lot anger and resentment towards Don if he decides to reveal much more about his past. Don't expect sympathy. He lied to them. They can never trust him.
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It is certainly interesting that they basically removed him when before in the Sterling Cooper days no one was interested in the company unless Don Draper was attached. As far as firing him, they clearly did that but he is still a partner and I would assume they would have to buy him out. Pete too, I really wish they resolved that or were more clear at least. I wonder if he resigned?
Was pissed off at Joan not meeting his eyes, he backed her when she needed it. And also, Roger has his professional life together now (much prefer his office now then the stark white) but no one canned him after he lost lucky strike.

I can't understand why they turned their backs on Don when clearly that admission about his childhood was a reach out. Certainly his past conduct set up the firing but that just seems to me a weak reason.


Definitely good move on Don's part to show where he came from to his kids. Not sure if it was an apology to Sally or an attempt to manipulate her, I'm hoping that he saw it as an opportunity to help her (and him) understand why he does the things he does.

As for Megan, divorce?

+1

Considering his support for Joan and Roger, and that Ted's face had barely dried from crying to Don about the California post, I was disappointed at this coup.
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Not at all surprised or disappointed in Bert Cooper or Ted's partner.
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Don't expect sympathy. He lied to them. They can never trust him.

almost exactly what don said to lane. very interesting.
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