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post #586 of 760
I don't think he gives a fuck
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

i feel like he has always been somewhat delusional about how people see him. or he doesnt give a fuck. not sure.
post #587 of 760
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Ted is much more dilutional than Don at both work and romance. Wassup with the flirting in/out with Peggy and the imaginary competition with Don?

teds seems more oblivious/paranoid sometimes to me, whereas don to me sometimes seems that he has this impression of what people think of him that is way off.
post #588 of 760
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I don't think he gives a fuck


i think he very much gives a fuck about what people think about him. he needs it to a certain degree.
post #589 of 760
I guess in some respects...like when he wanted so much to win that advertising award. But from a personal aspect he doesn't seem to care how people see him. Doorman, his ex before Megan, his family and neighbors. I still remember in that first season when he left to get the cake for Sally and didn't come back. Or when he almost split for good on that business trip to LA with Pete.
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i think he very much gives a fuck about what people think about him. he needs it to a certain degree.
post #590 of 760
Don does not care what 99% of the people in his life think about him. A great example was a scene between him and Peter where Peter says something about how he's always thinking about Don's opinion of him and Don replies he never thinks about Peter. That's the truth for almost everyone in his life. It's when one of the few people that does matter to Don what they think about him takes a turn for the worse he loses it. Right now it's Sally.

So to ask if Don cares what people think about him or not, is as usual, a far too simple question. There is the vast majority of people, which are almost mere objects to be manipulated by him, and then the very few people who's opinion of him he values.
post #591 of 760
I agree Don cares what people think of him. That's why he went to great lengths (earlier in the show) to present an idea of what Don Draper is. I remember his scenes as Dick Whitman thinking what a cheeseball he was. That veneer has been cracking for a while (most notably when Betty found out his identity and he was a scared little shit).

Ted is the "normal" version of Don. With nothing to hide and no veneer to hide behind - hence his paranoia (real or imagined) about competing with Don. Hence is giddy crush with Peggy (which is returned). Don at his best wouldn't act that way. He would keep any budding crush or relationship hush hush enough that maybe only Joan and Roger would notice.
post #592 of 760
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I agree Don cares what people think of him. That's why he went to great lengths (earlier in the show) to present an idea of what Don Draper is. I remember his scenes as Dick Whitman thinking what a cheeseball he was. That veneer has been cracking for a while (most notably when Betty found out his identity and he was a scared little shit).

Ted is the "normal" version of Don. With nothing to hide and no veneer to hide behind - hence his paranoia (real or imagined) about competing with Don. Hence is giddy crush with Peggy (which is returned). Don at his best wouldn't act that way. He would keep any budding crush or relationship hush hush enough that maybe only Joan and Roger would notice.

Maybe so, but it's only a means to an end.
post #593 of 760
if don were stripped bare in front of the people he knew, large figures or small about his past and all his flaws, he would implode. he most certainly cares what people think when it comes to things that loom large.
post #594 of 760
I think this most captures Don. And the point "right now it's Sally" is important too because to him the people that he cares about seem to change. The only one who seemed consistently important to him was Don Draper's wife.
This guy turned his back on his own brother, and seemed very little effected by his brother's suicide. It is interesting on the occasions that he does something nice for people, like going to see Peggie after she gave birth, or paying Pete's share of the new company. This from the same guy who twice almost disappeared from his two kids.
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Don does not care what 99% of the people in his life think about him. A great example was a scene between him and Peter where Peter says something about how he's always thinking about Don's opinion of him and Don replies he never thinks about Peter. That's the truth for almost everyone in his life. It's when one of the few people that does matter to Don what they think about him takes a turn for the worse he loses it. Right now it's Sally.

So to ask if Don cares what people think about him or not, is as usual, a far too simple question. There is the vast majority of people, which are almost mere objects to be manipulated by him, and then the very few people who's opinion of him he values.
post #595 of 760
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teds seems more oblivious/paranoid sometimes to me, whereas don to me sometimes seems that he has this impression of what people think of him that is way off.

I do see your point, but very occasionally. For example, when Peggy got upset with don at Cleo or the most current incident, Don did actually care about what Peggy thinks of him. Or Sally. Coming to think of it, i only remembers Don cared about misunderstanding from certain people; the real Drapers wife at LA, Peggy, Sally and rest of his kids.
post #596 of 760

Anyone notice that Roger and Pete use matchy tie-PS combos now? Ugh.

post #597 of 760
Other than pot, it seems like there isn't much smoking at SC&P, am I mis-remembering?

Just out of curiosity do we know all the clients the firm has?
post #598 of 760
So looking at the comments on pop culture web sites, it seems that the Jezebel e-feminists have adopted Sally Draper as their hero for doing what they so love to do: conflating boorish male behavior with rape. Apparently it was ok to let Glen believe that Rollo had tried to rape her, because he was definitely going to do so in a minute.
post #599 of 760
DEATH TO ROLO DEATH TO ROLO!!!
post #600 of 760
Huh.
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