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post #526 of 760
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^ What do you mean re: Matthew Weiner? Is the character of Ted based on him in some way?

Yeh. I meant that Ted is Weiner's fictionalized version of himself.
post #527 of 760
Don's move with the ad...

On one hand, it sure screws over Ted's handling of Peggy. It also really pisses Peggy off. But, it did save the client. 50k on a 15k budget is not just over-budget, its broken and relationship ending if it hadn't been stopped in the middle of casting.

Was there another way to do it? I don't know. Don may not care much for others, but I'd like to think he would not feel great about fucking up Peggy's great add and shot at the Cleo. Even for selfish reasons, the firm winning a Cleo (especially on work that was done for a smaller client, not some big-money flashy one) would be a very good thing for everyone. Ted clearly was losing it in the meeting; he simply was not going to convince the client, so maybe Don's idea was the best thing that came to him.
post #528 of 760
that is exactly what i thought. don can be brutal when it comes to the agency, like with lane, and its probably about his control too, but he does seem to care about the agency. well, sometimes.
post #529 of 760
Think don handlers that meeting brilliantly.

50k on 15k budget is ridiculous and Ted's judgement was completely blinded by peggy.

Was a good move to wake up Ted while saving the client relationship at the same time.

If Ted hasnt been chasing Peggy around I doubt Don will kill Ocean Spray relationship for money.
post #530 of 760
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Ted clearly was losing it in the meeting; he simply was not going to convince the client, so maybe Don's idea was the best thing that came to him.

 

+1000

 

Ted was a complete amateur in that scene and once again, everyone in that meeting was dead silent. If it had gone on any longer, the relationship would've been done.

 

In the process, however, Don lost the only other "daughter" he had outside of his personal life: Peggy. I still don't understand why people are up in arms about what Don did; it was a harsh, but necessary move. Peggy saying "You can stop now" was another way of telling Don to stop kicking Ted.

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Don Draper the jealous sick possessive bastard.

What? No...since when?

Also, did anyone else lol that Don was drinking Tropicana OJ at home?
post #532 of 760
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What? No...since when?

Also, did anyone else lol that Don was drinking Tropicana OJ at home?

With more than a shot of whatever alcohol that was in his glass flask...

Maybe that's the invention of screwdriver!!
post #533 of 760

Not to mention everyone else in the office was starting to take notice of how blatantly obvious the Peggy / Ted situation had gotten.  Ted is kinda falling apart.

 

Did anyone else get the feeling that Bob and Manolo were "together'?  In the scene where Pete calls Bob out (although I hate Pete his strategy here was pretty smart), Bob says that "Manolo isn't interested in woman".  I kinda got the feeling that he was saying that they were together and that would explain why Bob was hablar español en el teléfon, no?

post #534 of 760
IIRC, the dialogue was such that it sounded like Bob was speaking to someone about Manolo?
post #535 of 760
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Originally Posted by edinatlanta View Post

IIRC, the dialogue was such that it sounded like Bob was speaking to someone about Manolo?

When he calls Manolo (presumably to tell him to bump into Pete's mom), he speaks English right? Maybe I just read the subtitles, but I thought he said outloud something like "I know she's a nice woman"
post #536 of 760
He's telling Manolo to use Pete's mom's infatuation with him to get her to put some pressure on Pete.
post #537 of 760
i thought he was talking to manolo, and the subtitles were hilarious. interesting theory about him and manolo, jhilla. seems very plausible to me.

i wonder what this don/ted will bring and if ted will totally lose it. he seems to be on the brink as it is. don seems to loom large over him, even more so in his mind than in actuality. interesting, because right before the merger he was pwning don and full of confidence. seems that going from competitor to partner was a turn for the worse for ted.
post #538 of 760
Glen's creepy factor has been reduced greatly.

Wasn't the Tropicana thing really out of Don's control at this point? He told Harry Crane to kill it, but when Tropicana came back with a proposal he has a fiduciary duty to his partners to submit the offer to them - assuming that he did and not Harry.

I don't really agree with how Don handled the cost overrun issue. Weren't the horses out of the barn at that point - they were already way over budget, no? Seems like the thing to do would have been talk to the other partners about it and reach consensus on how to deal with it - either internalize the cost overrun because it's really great work and will benefit the company or have a sit down with the client and try to get them to approve the overage. In any event that meeting shouldn't have been used as an attempt to "teach" Ted a lesson.
post #539 of 760
well, maybe not the right time and place. but ted did need a strong message, not one he could easily ignore. he and peggy were like 2 teenagers. was absurd for a parter in an ad agency to act like that.
post #540 of 760
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

Think don handlers that meeting brilliantly.

50k on 15k budget is ridiculous and Ted's judgement was completely blinded by peggy.

Was a good move to wake up Ted while saving the client relationship at the same time.

If Ted hasnt been chasing Peggy around I doubt Don will kill Ocean Spray relationship for money.

+1. Also think it was better for Don to update the client rather than sending them a huge unexpected bill after they finished the commercial. "We have this great idea but it's going to cost much more than we were planning" is a way better message than "Costs ran way overboard, but don't worry, it's worth it."
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