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post #616 of 2029
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Originally Posted by dragon8 View Post

How much longer can the trade continue in HK? The video claims that not a lot of people are going in and the old timers are cloBese to retiring. I wonder how long places like WW Chan and Yao can continue to churn out great products with an aging tailor population.

Bespoke tailoring is a dying art in HK as it has been in the US. I have yet to meet a tailor younger than 50 here in the US. The situation is probably similar in HK. However I am glad WW Chan is still "grooming" younger tailors. If you visit their KL store, there are many "younger" employees there. I would guess Patrick Chu is only in his 40s himself. However I haven't seen Gordan Yao with a younger apprentice. I am afraid when Gordan retires, his shop will close.
post #617 of 2029
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Originally Posted by Timeless Fashion View Post

Bespoke tailoring is a dying art in HK as it has been in the US. I have yet to meet a tailor younger than 50 here in the US. The situation is probably similar in HK. However I am glad WW Chan is still "grooming" younger tailors. If you visit their KL store, there are many "younger" employees there. I would guess Patrick Chu is only in his 40s himself. However I haven't seen Gordan Yao with a younger apprentice. I am afraid when Gordan retires, his shop will close.

I don't think the younger fellows at Chan are tailors. I think they are customer service reps.
post #618 of 2029
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Originally Posted by Timeless Fashion View Post

Bespoke tailoring is a dying art in HK as it has been in the US. I have yet to meet a tailor younger than 50 here in the US. The situation is probably similar in HK. However I am glad WW Chan is still "grooming" younger tailors. If you visit their KL store, there are many "younger" employees there. I would guess Patrick Chu is only in his 40s himself. However I haven't seen Gordan Yao with a younger apprentice. I am afraid when Gordan retires, his shop will close.

Gordon's son Eric works with/for his father and I believe he has plans to take over the business once his father retires. I don't think that he has been trained as a tailor, but seems to have a keen interest in clothing and traditional tailoring, as well as being very helpful in servicing customers, particularly those not based in Hong Kong. I'm not sure who will take over as "master" tailor when Gordon retires, but I am sure they must be grooming someone as I don't think there are any plans to close the business, and I would think the elder Mr. Yao will be ready to retire soon.
post #619 of 2029
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Originally Posted by GucciKid View Post

Gordon's son Eric works with/for his father and I believe he has plans to take over the business once his father retires. I don't think that he has been trained as a tailor, but seems to have a keen interest in clothing and traditional tailoring, as well as being very helpful in servicing customers, particularly those not based in Hong Kong. I'm not sure who will take over as "master" tailor when Gordon retires, but I am sure they must be grooming someone as I don't think there are any plans to close the business, and I would think the elder Mr. Yao will be ready to retire soon.

Gordon is not the tailor and don't really know if he was one. I know his master tailor is up there in age and believe he's in his 70's.
I think most of his tailors are close to that age bracket. Gordon, IMO, has a good eye to detail if you know what you want but his prices have gone up in years as well particularly CMT prices.
post #620 of 2029
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Originally Posted by dragon8 View Post

Gordon is not the tailor and don't really know if he was one. I know his master tailor is up there in age and believe he's in his 70's.
I think most of his tailors are close to that age bracket. Gordon, IMO, has a good eye to detail if you know what you want but his prices have gone up in years as well particularly CMT prices.

Gordon is a skilled and time-served tailor - see his biography. He does not personally make the suits but oversees the process and the equally skilled tailors he employs.

Eric seems set to take over the business eventually although Gordon is still quite able and fit.
post #621 of 2029
During the first fittings, usually present are two tailors - one for the jacket and another for the pants, aside from Gordon.
post #622 of 2029
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Originally Posted by vinveritas View Post

During the first fittings, usually present are two tailors - one for the jacket and another for the pants, aside from Gordon.


Is it?  When I went there, just one tailor and Gordon did the job.  The guy was in his mid 50's I guess. 

post #623 of 2029
In my experience, at the basted stage, GY gives directions to one tailor for the jacket, and another for the trousers. Both tailors appear to me in their 60's. At the subsequent fittings, only one tailor is present to receive GY's instructions. One thing I like about GY is that the service is personalized, and you don't feel being rushed.
post #624 of 2029
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Originally Posted by vinveritas View Post

In my experience, at the basted stage, GY gives directions to one tailor for the jacket, and another for the trousers. Both tailors appear to me in their 60's. At the subsequent fittings, only one tailor is present to receive GY's instructions. One thing I like about GY is that the service is personalized, and you don't feel being rushed.


That could be the case for me. I may have a very poor memory......

post #625 of 2029

Heading to Shanghai, Beijing, HK then KL (in that order)

 

I'm out to bring total cost down, source the cloth from the mainland and take it to a HK tailor. Medium budget, roughly 500 per suit

 

Names and approximate locations would be very helpful. I can Google the gaps. The amount of fabric needed is also something I'd appreciate some advice on. I'm a 38/48 typically and roughly 6ft 1'

 

Before you think I'm lazy and just want someone to hold my hand, I've read through the thread and can see the majority of posts are about touring, high end tailors, with limited details on cloth sourcing

 

So I'm after the consult of members with recent experiences with HK tailors and anyone with superior cloth knowledge *just cloth knowledge and/or where to source it in those cities.

 

Thanks

xiexie

gracias

grazie

 

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post #626 of 2029
Some people purchase their cloth here on B&S or go over to the London Lounge. I have sourced fabric from a local H Lesser wholesaler. Not sure if people do buy bolts in China, so I'm interested to hear about this as well. Otherwise, I would question the authenticity of well-known names at cheap prices. Sometimes, it better to source your fabric from someone you trust...
post #627 of 2029
You won't find good deals on British or Italian cloth in China, there's a very high import tariff on them. Just buy from mills themselves or jobbers such as Royal Textiles on eBay.
post #628 of 2029
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Originally Posted by iSurg View Post

Some people purchase their cloth here on B&S or go over to the London Lounge. I have sourced fabric from a local H Lesser wholesaler. Not sure if people do buy bolts in China, so I'm interested to hear about this as well. Otherwise, I would question the authenticity of well-known names at cheap prices. Sometimes, it better to source your fabric from someone you trust...

I have been saying this for a while now. When I was living in HK I befriended some fabric dealers and tailors.... it is a pretty well known "dirty little secret" among many in this area that much of the fabric in HK is in fact counterfeit. I always requested samples, did fiber and burn tests, etc. Ultimately I played it safe and got my wool directly from England. caveat emptor indeed.
post #629 of 2029
It is indeed quite hard to trust fabric suppliers from HK. Which brands appear to be counterfeited most, in your experience? Is it just the high-end like Scabal or is there fake VBC, Harrison's etc.?
post #630 of 2029
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Originally Posted by babygreenspots View Post

It is indeed quite hard to trust fabric suppliers from HK. Which brands appear to be counterfeited most, in your experience? Is it just the high-end like Scabal or is there fake VBC, Harrison's etc.?

In my experience, be wary of super fabrics with high thread counts, in any famous brands. Those are they dangerous one.
However, buying quality fabrics in Hong Kong does not cost significant more than in the UK.
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