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post #481 of 2088

If I have 5 full days in HK, do you think that would be enough time to get a bespoke suit? I am interested in using Il Sarto, does anyone know if that is enough time to get one done? I tried emailing them but no response.

post #482 of 2088
LL Sarto is merely a gimmick, dont waste your money there. 5 days is not enough for a proper bespoke suit anywhere in the world.

unless you are going to trust them after the initial fitting.

for your need, i will try TCNY as the high end MTM. i presume you like 'slim' suit and has no knowledge on bespoke cuts around the world.
post #483 of 2088
Someone not replying to e-amils obviously doesn't want your business. This forum and thread are full of good addresses, in five days, you should be able to get two fittings in and have the suit mailed to you.
post #484 of 2088
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Someone not replying to e-amils obviously doesn't want your business. This forum and thread are full of good addresses, in five days, you should be able to get two fittings in and have the suit mailed to you.

Two fittings in five days is pushing the edge. I think one fitting is more feasible. Again, i do think TCNY is a good option, since it is cheaper than the top tier, and they are MTM in bespoke standard.

without multiple fittings, you are likely to throw away money.
post #485 of 2088
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Originally Posted by gen60 View Post

If I have 5 full days in HK, do you think that would be enough time to get a bespoke suit? I am interested in using Il Sarto, does anyone know if that is enough time to get one done? I tried emailing them but no response.

 

I got a reply in one or two days when I made an inquiry to Il Sarto.   Anyway they usually requires 3 weeks to complete the suit.

It can be shorter but I do not know how short can it be. 

 

TCNY usually requires 3 weeks even though they do not do basted fitting.  If your size is very standard and fit to their gauge pretty close then should be OK with TCNY assuming you like the pattern and fabric.  My experience with them was not so good, but it could be just me.

post #486 of 2088
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Originally Posted by add911_11 View Post

LL Sarto is merely a gimmick, dont waste your money there. 5 days is not enough for a proper bespoke suit anywhere in the world.

unless you are going to trust them after the initial fitting.

for your need, i will try TCNY as the high end MTM. i presume you like 'slim' suit and has no knowledge on bespoke cuts around the world.

 

Wow thanks for the quick replies. Got a reply from them today and they mentioned the same thing, it will take 3-4 weeks to make a suit and will only be able to complete 2 fittings and mail the suit. I think the final touches can be done here?

 

Why do you say Il sarto is a gimmick? I actually have 6 full days but they are closed on Sunday I believe. Was considering Il sarto or lee baron after reading this thread. Will check out TCNY too, thanks.

 

Yes this will be my first bespoke suit and looking at slim fit, but I do have some pictures of the style of suit I'd like.

 

I guess you have a good point though that since I'm throwing down 700-800 for a bespoke suit, it might be worth it to just get it done locally instead of trying to save 200-300 since I'm throwing down that much money anyways.

 

Thanks for the advice guys.


Edited by gen60 - 3/24/13 at 8:20am
post #487 of 2088
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Originally Posted by gen60 View Post

Wow thanks for the quick replies. Got a reply from them today and they mentioned the same thing, it will take 3-4 weeks to make a suit and will only be able to complete 2 fittings and mail the suit. I think the final touches can be done here?

Why do you say Il sarto is a gimmick? I actually have 6 full days but they are closed on Sunday I believe. Was considering Il sarto or lee baron after reading this thread. Will check out TCNY too, thanks.

Yes this will be my first bespoke suit and looking at slim fit, but I do have some pictures of the style of suit I'd like.

I guess you have a good point though that since I'm throwing down 700-800 for a bespoke suit, it might be worth it to just get it done locally instead of trying to save 200-300 since I'm throwing down that much money anyways.

Thanks for the advice guys.

If there is a good local bespoke operation, why not trust them?
post #488 of 2088
I've ordered several suits from Il Sarto and much prefer their quality and service than Lee Baron but they require time compared to other shops that rush it in 1 week.
post #489 of 2088
How would they compare with Lee Baron in terms of style, attention to detail, available fabrics and price?
post #490 of 2088
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Originally Posted by RogerC View Post

How would they compare with Lee Baron in terms of style, attention to detail, available fabrics and price?

Lee Baron overcharges for his service, in my opinion.
However, I do like his house shirting offers.
post #491 of 2088

Hi

 

I am relatively new to Hong Kong and I have a dilemma.  Coming from the UK, I have a series of Paul Smith suits which need alterations.  I have been perusing the forums and the intarwebs but can only find information on tailors who do not do alterations.

 

I would like help on finding a good quality tailor to alter trousers (shorten the rise, reduce waist, clean up the seat and make the legs thinner).  Are there any recommendations on a reputable tailor I can trust with these works?

 

Thanks

post #492 of 2088

I'm going to be in Hong Kong in a couple weeks and I wanted to check out the tailor situation. I'll be in and out of Hong Kong for a month so it doesn't need to be a rush and I can get in for a couple fittings. I've read through the past year's worth of posts in this thread and some others on here as well as r/MFA and I think I have some idea of what to look for. I was hoping to get some updated advice and a little more information. I will have a Cantonese speaking person with me so language is not a huge concern.

 

My ideal price point is $500. That's adjustable but I'm really looking for good value. Obviously I would prefer bespoke and canvass, but if it's better value to get half canvass that might be OK. I'd like to avoid MTM and fused. The main reason I can't make a decision is I'm not really sure what the difference in price actually reflects. I hear people say you get better fabrics, or that the cheap one "looks like shit" but I'd love to hear some more specifics information. Is the difference that noticeable between the $5,000HKD and $10,000HKD suits? I have a few higher end OTR suits right now (Burberry, Z Zegna) and a MTM from Holt Renfrew (similar to Nordstrom's for the US) and I would be more than happy with something similarly well made (I'm not expecting it to look or fit like an Ermenegildo Zegna suit).

 

Tailors:

WW Chan / Y William Yu / Gordon Yao - Bespoke full canvass runs from $10,000HKD - $20,000HKD. These are generally considered the best options but unfortunately out of my price range at the moment. I may be able to afford 1 suit at their absolute lowest possible price point but I'm not sure this is the best value.

Peter Lee (Lee Baron) - Popular tailor on this forum. Apparently his prices have been going up recently due to this popularity; bespoke canvass used to be $37000HKD but now are at least $5500HKD. This is where I was planning to go but I'm not sure if it's worth it anymore. Is the value still there? Half canvass seems to run about $4200HKD and might be the right move here.

TCNY: Another popular option here. MTM starts at $5000HKD. Again doesn't seem like great value for MTM. Also I'm in town for a while and can take the time for bespoke.

Simpson Sin: Popular due to their appearance on No Reservations with Tony Bourdain. Probably not great value. Not a lot of discussion on these boards about them.

Empire International: Cheaper. Seems to be hit or miss in terms of quality.

Sam's Tailor: Similar to Empire. Mixed reviews but generally a bit cheaper.

Cheung Hing: Apparently I can get a bespoke suit (must be fused at this price) for under $200.

 

Shirts:

Ascot Chang: ~$1700HKD. Great shirts but kinda pricey. A little out of my range for a shirt.

Jantzen: Much cheaper (~$400HKD) and quick turnaround. I'm going to go get one made here and see if I like it then likely get a few more from here.

 

Shoes:

Zee's Leatherware

 

Thanks for the help guys!

post #493 of 2088
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Originally Posted by Crowtservo View Post

I'm going to be in Hong Kong in a couple weeks and I wanted to check out the tailor situation. I'll be in and out of Hong Kong for a month so it doesn't need to be a rush and I can get in for a couple fittings. I've read through the past year's worth of posts in this thread and some others on here as well as r/MFA and I think I have some idea of what to look for. I was hoping to get some updated advice and a little more information. I will have a Cantonese speaking person with me so language is not a huge concern.

My ideal price point is $500. That's adjustable but I'm really looking for good value. Obviously I would prefer bespoke and canvass, but if it's better value to get half canvass that might be OK. I'd like to avoid MTM and fused. The main reason I can't make a decision is I'm not really sure what the difference in price actually reflects. I hear people say you get better fabrics, or that the cheap one "looks like shit" but I'd love to hear some more specifics information. Is the difference that noticeable between the $5,000HKD and $10,000HKD suits? I have a few higher end OTR suits right now (Burberry, Z Zegna) and a MTM from Holt Renfrew (similar to Nordstrom's for the US) and I would be more than happy with something similarly well made (I'm not expecting it to look or fit like an Ermenegildo Zegna suit).

Tailors:
WW Chan / Y William Yu / Gordon Yao - Bespoke full canvass runs from $10,000HKD - $20,000HKD. These are generally considered the best options but unfortunately out of my price range at the moment. I may be able to afford 1 suit at their absolute lowest possible price point but I'm not sure this is the best value.
Peter Lee (Lee Baron) - Popular tailor on this forum. Apparently his prices have been going up recently due to this popularity; bespoke canvass used to be $37000HKD but now are at least $5500HKD. This is where I was planning to go but I'm not sure if it's worth it anymore. Is the value still there? Half canvass seems to run about $4200HKD and might be the right move here.
TCNY: Another popular option here. MTM starts at $5000HKD. Again doesn't seem like great value for MTM. Also I'm in town for a while and can take the time for bespoke.
Simpson Sin: Popular due to their appearance on No Reservations with Tony Bourdain. Probably not great value. Not a lot of discussion on these boards about them.
Empire International: Cheaper. Seems to be hit or miss in terms of quality.
Sam's Tailor: Similar to Empire. Mixed reviews but generally a bit cheaper.
Cheung Hing: Apparently I can get a bespoke suit (must be fused at this price) for under $200.

Shirts:
Ascot Chang: ~$1700HKD. Great shirts but kinda pricey. A little out of my range for a shirt.
Jantzen: Much cheaper (~$400HKD) and quick turnaround. I'm going to go get one made here and see if I like it then likely get a few more from here.

Shoes:
Zee's Leatherware

Thanks for the help guys!

You will not get a decent suit for $500. You might find one of the Asians that tout at Tsim Tsa Tsui will match this but don't expect it to last for more than five minutes.
post #494 of 2088
I vote for TCNY, at least I have seen their MTM suits and looks passible. that will fit your expectation. However, they are not made in bespoke standard. I also advice yo get a couple of shirts with Peter Lee.
post #495 of 2088

Thanks guys!

 

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You will not get a decent suit for $500. You might find one of the Asians that tout at Tsim Tsa Tsui will match this but don't expect it to last for more than five minutes.

 

I'm really looking for some specifics. It will literally fall apart after 5 minutes? Or just won't look great? Specifically how does it compare to one that costs $1000 (from Hong Kong)?

 

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Originally Posted by add911_11 View Post

I vote for TCNY, at least I have seen their MTM suits and looks passible. that will fit your expectation. However, they are not made in bespoke standard. I also advice yo get a couple of shirts with Peter Lee.

 

This is a viable route. I fit OTR reasonably well already (I'm 6'2", 180lbs, average build) so MTM may be good enough. Is the fabric they use better than I would get if I wanted bespoke?

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