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post #91 of 301
2/11/13 at 12:00pm
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

I was banned from the CE!

To be fair, it was self-imposed...

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post #92 of 301
2/11/13 at 12:06pm
Apologies for my naivety - has there been a thread that tried to capture the "rules" as opposed to "wardrobe basics"?
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post #93 of 301
2/11/13 at 12:24pm
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

I was banned from the CE!

Wait. Wut? Really?
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post #94 of 301
2/11/13 at 12:26pm
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Originally Posted by bertie View Post

Apologies for my naivety - has there been a thread that tried to capture the "rules" as opposed to "wardrobe basics"?

It only leads to arguments about what's a rule and what's just convention, and what's a personal preference. Also there are some rules that are generally known and generally observed (don't wear black shoes and a brown belt) and some that aren't generally known nor observed (don't wear black suits during the day).
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post #95 of 301
2/11/13 at 12:27pm
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

It only leads to arguments about what's a rule and what's just convention, and what's a personal preference. Also there are some rules that are generally known and generally observed (don't wear black shoes and a brown belt) and some that aren't generally known nor observed (don't wear black suits during the day).

Arguments can be good.
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post #96 of 301
2/11/13 at 12:27pm
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

It only leads to arguments about what's a rule and what's just conventionn, and what's a personal preference. Also there are some rules that are generally known and generally observed (don't wear black shoes and a brown belt) and some that aren't generally known nor observed (don't wear black suits during the day).
No, it couldn't, because all such rules are conventions.
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post #97 of 301
2/11/13 at 12:31pm
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

No, it couldn't, because all such rules are conventions.

Well, the way I interpret them, conventions are statements of what's done. In contrast, rules are what should be done. Often they are one and the same, but not always. No?
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post #98 of 301
2/11/13 at 12:32pm
So would it make sense to start such a thread? Might be best if a dubiously honoured member did to allow for vicious moderation.
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post #99 of 301
2/11/13 at 12:34pm
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Originally Posted by bertie View Post

So would it make sense to start such a thread? Might be best if a dubiously honoured member did to allow for vicious moderation.

It's already happening in the good taste thread Manton started.
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post #100 of 301
2/11/13 at 12:34pm
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

No, it couldn't, because all such rules are conventions.

I think I'm using the word "convention" poorly. Is "your pants should be a lighter shade than your jacket" a rule? I'd say no, but it's a good guide, and mostly you will see well-dressed men wearing trousers that are lighter than their jacket when not wearing a suit. But I wouldn't elevate it to a "rule".
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post #101 of 301
2/11/13 at 12:36pm
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Originally Posted by Lovelace View Post

There is always a degree of societal enforcement with clothes. You have to wear them in public or face arrest for example.

Did you go to school in England, did you wear a uniform at school. Why do you think this was. What were they trying to achieve?

Yes, but that's irrelevant. A school, club, restaurant, armed service, fire brigade, business or whatever can set precise rules, because it can enforce them coercively on its property or among its members or employees.
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post #102 of 301
2/11/13 at 12:36pm
I don't understand. A "rule" is simply a normative prescription. It is a statement of what you should do. In real life, rules are distinguished from "guidance" or "best practices" due their enforcement by some authority. But here, there is no such authority. Rules, guidance, best practices, etc., are all the same thing for our purposes.
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post #103 of 301
2/11/13 at 12:37pm
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

It's already happening in the good taste thread Manton started.

Fair enough - that process will work but be limited in content by the pictures posted whereas a "rule" thread would be more direct.
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post #104 of 301
2/11/13 at 12:38pm
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

I think I'm using the word "convention" poorly. Is "your pants should be a lighter shade than your jacket" a rule? I'd say no, but it's a good guide, and mostly you will see well-dressed men wearing trousers that are lighter than their jacket when not wearing a suit. But I wouldn't elevate it to a "rule".

I think this is mostly an SF thing.
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post #105 of 301
2/11/13 at 12:38pm
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Originally Posted by Geezer View Post

Yes, but that's irrelevant. A school, club, restaurant, armed service, fire brigade, business or whatever can set precise rules, because it can enforce them coercively on its property or among its members or employees.

That's not what I'm getting at.

Why do you think schools adopt a uniform. What are they trying to achieve?
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