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In a time pickle.... Tuxedo alternative?

post #1 of 32
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I was just notified that I'm going to a "ball" in a couple of weeks but I don't own a tuxedo. I'd prefer to find a nice tuxedo on sale, however, as a 38L, I will not be able to find one. Very few nice brands that I could find off the rack will fit me (Ralph Lauren Black Label and Purple Label), but at retail prices of $2300+ and $4000+, they are much higher than what I'd like to spend on a tuxedo that I'd very rarely wear. I don't have enough time to have one made for me either, so that is out of the question. I will not be renting either. In the end, I don't care that much about what I'm wearing to this ball to the point of spending a ton of money, but I'd like to do something appropriate.


That being said, there are only two somewhat viable options in my current wardrobe that I think could possibly pass:

A. Midnight navy, notch lapel suit with roped shoulders (inspired by Vox's post about formal wear here: Vox Link)
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From his post: "If you wear really nice shoes, a black bow tie, and a black cummerbund with a turndown medium spread white shirt [even with barrel cuffs] and a black two piece two button single breasted suit; 99% of the world, and probably all of your friends, will assume you are wearing a tuxedo, because it will look correct even with the notch lapels."


B. Black velvet, notch lapel sport coat with roped shoulders paired with a dark grey/charcoal flannel trousers. Unfortunately, this is also notch lapel, but it's what I have to work with.

I'm thinking something similar to this but with black instead of navy, better sleeve length, and better pant length:




With both of these, I plan to at least wear a black grosgrain bow-tie and white shirt. I don't like french cuffs, so I don't even own any white french cuff shirts, let alone a tuxedo appropriate shirt. Should I buy one? Are the studs necessary? Cummerbund as well? What's my best route to take with all of this?
Edited by Superfluous - 2/4/13 at 5:06pm
post #2 of 32
Rent
post #3 of 32
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Originally Posted by GBR View Post

Rent

I won't be renting.
post #4 of 32
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I don't care that much about what I'm wearing to this ball to the point of spending a ton of money, but I'd like to do something appropriate.

If you won't rent, decline the invitation.

People at the ball will notice that you are not dressed correctly. And if you are being invited to formal balls, you need to own a proper tuxedo.
post #5 of 32
Buy something cheap, say from Jos. A. Bank, and take it to an alterations tailor.
post #6 of 32
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Originally Posted by Master Squirrel View Post

If you won't rent, decline the invitation.

People at the ball will notice that you are not dressed correctly. And if you are being invited to formal balls, you need to own a proper tuxedo.

I think you're exaggerating. And I'm a guest to my girlfriend who is attending, so I don't think I'll be invited to too many. Who knows though. Hopefully if I do, I have time to have one made for me.

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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

Buy something cheap, say from Jos. A. Bank, and take it to an alterations tailor.

I'd rather spend $2000+ on a RL Black Label tux than buy a Joseph Bank suit.
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post #8 of 32
So...
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Originally Posted by Superfluous View Post

I don't care that much about what I'm wearing to this ball to the point of spending a ton of money

You won't buy an expensive tuxedo.
But you won't rent.
And you won't buy a cheap tuxedo.

Just stay home.
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post #10 of 32
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Originally Posted by HomerJ View Post

So...
You won't buy an expensive tuxedo.
But you won't rent.
And you won't buy a cheap tuxedo.

Just stay home.

 

+1.  So, you basically just started this thread in order for everyone to validate your idea to mix and match the contents of your closet.

post #11 of 32
Thread Starter 


I thought about this, but the measurements seemed large and also short. I'd rather not half-ass it if I'm going to spend $500+.



This is actually an intriguing option, thanks. I don't have experience with gieves and hawkes, any commentary?



No one seems to want to address either of the options in my current wardrobe I think may work. Any comments on the two options?
post #12 of 32
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Originally Posted by Superfluous View Post

This is actually an intriguing option, thanks. I don't have experience with gieves and hawkes, any commentary?

G&H is good quality and, for the price, I think that is a great option.
post #13 of 32

You could probably pull off a black suit with a tuxedo shirt.

post #14 of 32

Well, to answer your questions: Neither seems a good option, though #1 is infintely better than #2. However, that is tempered with the reality that there are 'balls' and then there are balls (can't believe I just said that). I've been to balls where I was the only person in a dinner jacket and balls where I was decidedly not the best dressed. So some guidance there would help, for in the former situation you could get away with anything, whereas in the latter you might feel a bit like a rube, or at least out of place. Nothing worse, in my book, than going out with a beautifully attired woman while looking like a schlub.

 

If I had to wear a non-tux tux to a ball, I'd wear a black peak lapel suit with the rest of the accoutrement, but I'd only do so if few would know the difference.

 

Like everything else, its a matter of appropriateness.

 

That said, I 'd totally scour eBay; I had to get a 2nd DJ when mine was out being relined, and I scored a nice Edward Sexton. I like G&H,though I find it rather lighter than midnight.

 

~H

post #15 of 32

Something that doesn't fit you well will look worse than not wearing black tie. 

 

I'd go with the midnight blue, especially if it's a good mohair. White shirt, Black grenadine four in hand tie. Oscar outfit. I'd think you'd be able to get away with it especially if you're young. 

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