Tailored Clothing Widely Considered Gay - Page 2

Originally Posted by Soph

Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw

I know this guy who has like five pairs of shoes! I am sorry but all a man should have are some sneakers, flip flops and maybe a pair of black dress shoes. Anything more than that is just gay.

Originally Posted by Manton

While this thread is not about shoes per se, I note that the shoes worn with the posted enseble are brown suede. Suede is supremely gay.

Originally Posted by Manton

While this thread is not about shoes per se, I note that the shoes worn with the posted enseble are brown suede. Suede is supremely gay.

Originally Posted by Manton

While this thread is not about shoes per se, I note that the shoes worn with the posted enseble are brown suede. Suede is supremely gay.

Originally Posted by Soph

Damn Lumberjacks are gay too:

Originally Posted by GQgeek

That's really disturbing.

Originally Posted by Manton

As with the OBTC thread, I present you with a near perfect storm. If the ensemble is (as Freud would say) "overdeterimined" to look gay, that is not because I am trying to stack the deck, but merely because I want to be sure that the point gets across.

The suit is not solid. This in itself is not gay. But the only proper non-gay pattern is a pin stripe. Nailhead is gay. Windowpanes are gay. Double windowpanes are way gay. Double dot windowpanes are gay, gay, gay. Nailhead with a double dot windowpane is just FLAMING.

The vest is gay. "What?!" you say, recoiling in horror and disbelief. But I am afraid so. Real MEN do not wear vests. Ask yourself this: When was the last time the vest was widely popular? Answer: the late 70s and early 80s. What did the catalogue models who wore them look like? Wild, wavy hair, handlebar moustaches, suspicious twinkles in their eyes, big bright smiles. I.e., gay. That association has stuck, and it will never go away. In fact, that's why the vest is dead. To breeders, anyway.

SB peak: oh so swish. It may have been a hetero favorite in the '30s, but that was back when even Noel Coward was in the closet. Since the homos came out, they have taken it over. MEN wear SB notch. The width of the lapel is especially gay. We all know that gay guys (except maybe the buffed Chelsea boys) have to compensate for their essentially girly nature. It's similar to the way middle aged underendowed guys buy extremely expensive, extremely fast cars. Gay guys get wide peaked lapels. This is so well known I really didn't even have to mention it.

The only thing gayer than a pink shirt is a lavender shirt. The high collar is reminiscent of Oscar Wilde; need any more be said about that?

Purple used to be the color of royalty. Now it is the color of homosexuality. Purple ties are in fact a secret sign. That's how they communicate with each other. The bold woven pattern is just icing on the cake. As we all know, subtlety is lost on gays. Dimples, as noted in a prior thread, are gay. Even gayer is to skew the dimple off to one side a little. A centered dimple is the hallmark of a nerd, and everyone knows that nerds are not gay and gays are not nerds.

Finally, the pocket square. This in and of itself is gay. Real MEN do not stuff dainties into their pockets. But lavender dainties, with hand rolled edges, an white jaquard overplaids? I don't even need to make a case against this. I note in closing that this specific pocket square has been denounced by the President of the United States.

If I am wrong about any of this, I will accept corrections from mack11211. The rest of you breeders can kiss my @$$.

Originally Posted by Manton

If I am wrong about any of this, I will accept corrections from mack11211. The rest of you breeders can kiss my @$$.

Originally Posted by mack11211

Called out!

Well!

With all due respect (not much), your attempt at overdetermination is underwhelming.

While some elements send the right signals, others don't. The general effect is not very gay at all, merely dandyish. To me it says "very successful trial lawyer," at least above the pant cuffs.

Single breasted peaked lapel coats are quite ubiquitous nowadays, albeit usually separted from matching pants or vests. Most of these are pin striped and worn equally by 'mos and hets.

Lavender is a symbolic color of homosexuality but lavender shirts themselves don't communicate much. Lavender or purple ties communicate even less. Wilde's symbolic color was green -- this was the color of his carnation. Other Continental turn of the century homosexuals wore cravats of this color. In the early 20th century, in New York, red was the neck tie color that sent the strongest signals.

Suede shoes were just as suspect as Manton says.

My favorite example of TCWCG remains this:



The too-bold stripe, the giant figures on the tie, and the giant cufflinks are all signalling, even in the context of florid late 40s menswear styling.

The current equivalent would be a bodyhugging pinstripe coat, puma speedcats, some overpriced and excessively distressed jeans (especially around the crotch), and a t-shirt with vintage athletic styling and the words "Pitcher" or "Catcher" printed on it.

And yes, this is business dress in Chelsea.