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post #106 of 242
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Thanks a lot Mathewh! Yeah a good thread, thanks. Unfortunately, quite a few of the older images have been removed but good info there for sure!. The Katahdin is pretty much the service boot yeah? Is crazy horse a colour or type of leather?

 

Yeah, I don't really want to change the look and texture of the crazy horse leather. I love the look as it is. I don't need to do any major waterproofing either as its a urban boot to wear with denim. Sounds like we have similar needs, aesthetic and usage.

 

Would you use the Bick 4 on my crazy horse plain toe wedge's when new and before 1st wear? or just as needed every year or so? I love that it doesn't effect the look of the leather! I just want the leather to last and not dry out. Any opinion of the Obenauf's Leather Oil? http://www.amazon.com/Obenaufs-Leather-Oil-16oz-Restores/dp/B003EAW57E/ref=lh_ni_t?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1B7M9EQGNCLQA#productDetails

 

Out of interest, do you have the same boots as me, or just a chipp's fan from way back :)

 

I've never owned any of the Heritage line. Just looking at pictures though, the Katahdin is closer to the Homestead boot (because of the cap toe) but still different. They each have different hardware, sole and welt stitching. The leather looks slightly different (can't tell for sure) and its my understanding that the Heritage boots don't come with an insole. I'm no expert on the types of leather but to me, crazy horse leather seems to be mostly about the texture. It not like a regular full grain leather. Its got kind of a nap on the surface and a distressed look that gives it a patina. It doesn't have nearly as much texture as suede and seems to take abuse well.

 

I generally only apply stuff to my boots as needed. I'd only put something on new boots if they seemed stiff and dried out, like they'd been in storage for a while, or if I wanted to do some heavy duty waterproofing. Everyone here seems to have their opinion about this. BTW, the Bick 4 does change the look right when its applied but after about 24 hours you can't tell it was there. So if you use it, don't be alarmed if they look darker at first. Its also always good to test a small out of the way spot first before covering the whole boot.

 

I'm a fan of American made clothing in general and boots especially. I've had a soft spot for Chippewa since I had that first pair that's lasted so long. I've been thru other Chippewa boots that I don't have any more. Right now I've got four different pairs of Chippewa boots that I wear pretty often. I've got both versions of the Katahdin Iron Works Engineer boots, a pair of nubuc snake boots that I wear when out & about on our property and a pair of nubuc wellington type for general work.

post #107 of 242

Hey all. I just joined this forum and this was one of the threads that caused me to do so. So thanks for all the great boot advice.

 

I was looking for a good quality winter boot and picked up some of the 20082's when Amazon had their black friday shoe code. Basically the "GQ" boots with the lug sole in Tan Rodeo color. For $79 shipped I'm happy with them. Was not a fan of any of the "apache" boots - way too dark for my tastes.

 

I hit them with some Mink oil and then a few weeks later with a coat of Sno-Seal. The mink oil darkened them a tiny bit, the Sno Seal darkened them a LOT, although I think I used a little too much. They are definetly 100% waterproof, super comfy, and have great traction on snow and ice. Here is the review I wrote on Amazon:

 

 

First of all, don't buy these if you are looking for a stylish boot you can wear to the office on casual fridays. Make no mistake, these things are UGLY. Luckily I didn't buy them for the looks. The color is more of a grayish zombie skin tone than what is pictured. Secondly, these may as well be factory seconds due to the QC issues others have mentioned. On mine, the shoelace hooks are not spaced correctly so when you tighten the boot it makes it look really weird. For the price I paid, I could have bought Red Wing factory seconds which would have been of a similar quality but looked nicer and came with the better brand name. If I could do it again I would not buy these online, rather, I would find them in a store so I could open the box and inspect them first. I'm ok with the QC issues on mine, but I imagine it will make most buyers unhappy and want to return them.

Pros:
Don't make my feet hot like the gore-tex boots, should last a long time. Seem to be well constructed other than the cosmetic QC issues.

Cons:
Color is not as pictured, ankle stiff and hurting a bit during break-in (to be expected from a boot like this). Chunky sole has quite a bit of weight and "lift" - I feel like I'm wearing platform shoes. Laces are impossible to untie if you tie them in a double knot. I tossed them in favor of regular cotton boot laces.

 

As far as sizing goes, I wear an 11D in Clarks Desert boots which fits me perfectly. Ordered my Chips in the same size and they are just a tad bit too small. 


Edited by SlowJim - 1/5/14 at 4:20pm
post #108 of 242
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I've never owned any of the Heritage line. Just looking at pictures though, the Katahdin is closer to the Homestead boot (because of the cap toe) but still different. They each have different hardware, sole and welt stitching. The leather looks slightly different (can't tell for sure) and its my understanding that the Heritage boots don't come with an insole. I'm no expert on the types of leather but to me, crazy horse leather seems to be mostly about the texture. It not like a regular full grain leather. Its got kind of a nap on the surface and a distressed look that gives it a patina. It doesn't have nearly as much texture as suede and seems to take abuse well.

 

I generally only apply stuff to my boots as needed. I'd only put something on new boots if they seemed stiff and dried out, like they'd been in storage for a while, or if I wanted to do some heavy duty waterproofing. Everyone here seems to have their opinion about this. BTW, the Bick 4 does change the look right when its applied but after about 24 hours you can't tell it was there. So if you use it, don't be alarmed if they look darker at first. Its also always good to test a small out of the way spot first before covering the whole boot.

 

I'm a fan of American made clothing in general and boots especially. I've had a soft spot for Chippewa since I had that first pair that's lasted so long. I've been thru other Chippewa boots that I don't have any more. Right now I've got four different pairs of Chippewa boots that I wear pretty often. I've got both versions of the Katahdin Iron Works Engineer boots, a pair of nubuc snake boots that I wear when out & about on our property and a pair of nubuc wellington type for general work.


Thanks a lot for this info. very useful! So much to learn but all very interesting! It is an interesting leather. It came slightly marked but I assume that's just how the leather is and that it will easily mark up and get distressed and as you say a patina (learning what this means :) ) Even pushing the leather from inside causing the leather to get a distress mark on the outside. The tongue is very distressed already and has lots of creases and distress marks. I hope this is normal?

 

I think I'll buy some Bick 4 and use it every year to condition the leather, but I wont apply any now while the boot is brand new. I might apply some of the Revive X nubuck water repellent as I already own it. I'll test on the tongue 1st. This sound ok to you?

 

Thanks everyone for your advice! Great forum!

post #109 of 242

Are the heritage/service boots made on the same last as every other Chippewa boot with the fiberboard insole and rubber insert?

post #110 of 242

Picked up the Plain Toe Wedge in Crazy Horse as my first pair and have been wearing them for two weeks now. Always wanted shoes with a Vibram Christy sole.. definitely a solid pairing with your favorite slim fit/skinny jeans. Starting to develop some minor creasing in the areas seen below.. kind of sucks but i'm sure they'll see worse eventually. More pics to follow..

 

post #111 of 242

They look awesome! Did the Doc Martins wonder balsam you applied darken the leather much?

post #112 of 242

Nope, the color pretty much stayed the same. The only difference was that it was a bit shinier.. not a "glossy" shine, but more of an enhanced "waxy" look (if that makes sense).

post #113 of 242
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Nope, the color pretty much stayed the same. The only difference was that it was a bit shinier.. not a "glossy" shine, but more of an enhanced "waxy" look (if that makes sense).

Nice. I assume the shine will also dull a bit over time. I know what you mean by waxy. the whole boot has a waxy look to it to start with. Did you do it to waterproof it before 1st wear?

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No expert, and I cant see if the SOP shoe has the embossed logo, but the amazon one doesn't look cordovan. I think the image is incorrect.

post #116 of 242

btw, Snake Oil Provisions are awesome! They know their stuff and are passionate about it. I was upfront and told them I was deciding between a boot they sold and one someone else sold and they still gave heaps of sizing advice.

post #117 of 242
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No expert, and I cant see if the SOP shoe has the embossed logo, but the amazon one doesn't look cordovan. I think the image is incorrect.

 

thanks man! thinking of getting the amazon pair to save some $$$, ill just buy some flat waxed laces for it to be the same as the sop pair. 

post #118 of 242

The J.Crew black service boots with the pull tab and speed hooks are on sale for under 200 this weekend. Jump on them.

 

http://www.jcrew.com/mens_category/shoes/ruggedboots/PRDOVR~05711/05711.jsp

post #119 of 242
Unsure if this is the right thread but can anyone help ID these Chippewas?

post #120 of 242

Thought I'd share a few pics of my Chippewa Crazy Horse plain toe wedge's. Only been wearing them in for a day but very comfortable thus far. They will look even better when worn in and the sole gets a bit dirty. FYI, Haven't applied anything to them yet.

 

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