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post #46 of 64
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Originally Posted by j ingevaldsson View Post

Pretty tight. I measured it too loose, so my shoes came out a bit big. Easily fixed with a thin insole though, and since the proportions were correct they fit great now. Do not expect a perfect fit with your first order though, it's very hard to get it just right first time with own taken measurements and no test shoes. For next order you can easily show pics and describe what needs to be changed.

Thanks. I did realize this after reading your blog again. Most of the Japanese shoemakers actually make fully made shoes that the customers will try a few weeks to 1 month and I guess this is precisely the reason. But then again they cost almost 3X as much. I still find Kielman to be great value. As they say the last 10% is what makes it very expensive and I'm more than happy if we get 90%.

Decided to go ahead and try this out. Thanks for all the help - really appreciate it. Will post here once I get them, along with my humble assessment.
post #47 of 64

You can't always get what you want when you order bespoke.

Oh wait that's exactly what you're supposed to get. My bad.

Now seriously out. You may resume continuing lying to each other.
post #48 of 64
Oh yeah, I'm drunk on a Saturday. I earned it. I worked for a living. I didn't suck mom's teats for rent money.
post #49 of 64
wow.
post #50 of 64

Published a Conversation with Mr Maciej Kielman, the owner of Jan Kielman Bespoke Shoemakers in Warsaw. Have a read here: http://blueloafers.com/shoes-2/jan-kielman-bespoke-shoemakers-conversation-maciej-kielman/

 

Thanks

post #51 of 64
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Originally Posted by ammanati View Post

Published a Conversation with Mr Maciej Kielman, the owner of Jan Kielman Bespoke Shoemakers in Warsaw. Have a read here: http://blueloafers.com/shoes-2/jan-kielman-bespoke-shoemakers-conversation-maciej-kielman/

Thanks

Great write up! Nice to see the pics from the workshop as well.
post #52 of 64

Thanks Jesper! Appreciate it. Yes, the Master Cobbler agreed to have his photo taken during work under condition that he looks handsome and young :D. You judge :rotflmao:

post #53 of 64
Jesper, any thought on what needs to be done to refine your Kielman last? That's assuming you will commission another pair? Did you do your own measurements or did you have another person measure you?
post #54 of 64

Some recent Kielman shoes

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post #55 of 64
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Originally Posted by gsugsu View Post

Jesper, any thought on what needs to be done to refine your Kielman last? That's assuming you will commission another pair? Did you do your own measurements or did you have another person measure you?

 

I have new orders in process with both Bestetti (semi-bespoke) and Maftei (full bespoke) at the moment, so not any plans for a new commission from Kielman at this time. But quite possible that I will in the future. The last would mainly need to be adjusted to be a bit smaller, a bit more volume wise over the front of the instep to the ball. My wife helped me take the measurements, but we sort of did it together.

 

Ammanati: Some really nice pairs there, especially the V-cap, bloody great last shape on those!

post #56 of 64

Thanks Jesper, I will try to keep this thread up to date with some Kielman bespoke shoes. Unfortunately there is no Appreciation thread (yet?) so will post here. If that is ok.

Interesting use of colour outsole seam. Makes it look like it is wider than it really is. My personal preference would be dark though. I am probably more into classic look

post #57 of 64
Am supposed to receive my pair this week. Will keep everyone posted!
post #58 of 64
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Am supposed to receive my pair this week. Will keep everyone posted!

Nice!
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Exciting! 

post #60 of 64

Alright - received the pair of bespoke shoes from Jan Kielman. 

 

First and foremost however, I want to extend my thanks & gratitude to J Ingevaldsson for his comprehensive guide, help, as well as advice.  I've also benefited from some of his learning on the self measurement - to ensure that this one comes out right.  And of course, to the folks @ Jan Kielman for their wonderful service & pair of shoes.  So - without further ado, below are a couple of pictures and some of my own personal thoughts of the process & the outcome:

 

Positives:

1.  Fit is perfect.  I'm actually really amazed at how they were able to do that just based on the foot tracing & measurements, without any trial shoe.  I will not repeat whatever is already written by J Ingevaldsson or Jan Kielman here - but what has worked for me is to take multiple measurements across 5 nights (I've always done my measurements in the evening) & take the average.  More importantly - measure the tape snug (not too loose, not too tight) - the thumb rule here is to imagine how snug the shoes should feel on your feet - and that's how you should use the measuring tape.  On top of this, I've sent them multiple pictures of my feet - from the top, from the front, from the sides, from behind, etc. 

 

2.  Shoes feel extremely solid.  The leather feels high quality (both calf skin & suede.)  I had chosen the polish calf (vs. the French) which is supposed to be based on the Freudenberg tannery - now made in Poland (I think they're now called Weinheimer?)  This was also the recommended leather by Jan Kielman for black calf - as they're supposed to be more supple.

 

3.  Heel counter goes all the way to the arch - this is also probably why the shoes feel really solid.

4.  Shoes are 100% balanced (no side tilting, or gap on the heel) - perfect!

5.  They've added arch support on the insole - per my request (to correct my over-pronation) which is a big plus!  On this one - I've sent multiple pictures of my feet & ankle from behind to show the over-pronation.

 

6.  Monika was extremely helpful & speak English quite well - so communication was never a problem.  If there's any doubt - just call her.  It's always better to over-communicate, and talking is always better vs. sending emails.

 

7.  Shoes were done in ~4 weeks - super fast.

 

Feedback (Caveat: some of the feedback below, especially #1 & #2 is more feedback for myself for a potential next order, as they have more to do with my own personal preference.)

1.  I find that the welt extends quite a fair bit on the "Sztuper".  I generally prefer the welt not to extend that much to create a slimmer, sharper look.  In hindsight, I would have chosen the "lightweight."  Now, if I were in Poland, I could have probably seen some of the finished shoes in person, and decided on the "lightweight" immediately. 

 

2.  I would have asked for a longer toe - which I'm sure would not be a problem for them.  Again, if I were in Poland and had seen the last, I could have made this decision. 

 

3.  The waist is not really bevelled. 

4.  The shoe trees are not really lasted.  Having said that, they really serve their purpose.  If anything, this is purely just aesthetic. 

 

I hope this is somewhat helpful.  Now, enough talking, on with the pictures!  Enjoy!

 

A couple of pictures of the making process:

 

 

 

 

A couple of pictures of the finished product:

 

 

 

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