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Edited by Evolve - 6/6/14 at 7:45pm
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I made a trip to NYC yesterday and made a point to visit the store, and after trying on a few shirts decided on the New York Slim Fit. I got a blue OCBD (it was still wrapped up), and when I got back to where I was staying the night opened it up to find it had a box pleat and no darts. Have they changed the styling of the NYSF? Going by the description on their website it seems like it should have the darts.

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Originally Posted by rodneytrousers View Post
 

I made a trip to NYC yesterday and made a point to visit the store, and after trying on a few shirts decided on the New York Slim Fit. I got a blue OCBD (it was still wrapped up), and when I got back to where I was staying the night opened it up to find it had a box pleat and no darts. Have they changed the styling of the NYSF? Going by the description on their website it seems like it should have the darts.

 

I'm not sure why the webpage for the blue OCBD doesn't have it, but here's the description from the white OCBD, and it holds true for all of their OCBDs:

 

"This shirt will have a center box pleat instead of back darts. The chest measurement will be approx. 1” (2 cm) larger than the standard Slim Fit. This shirt also has an improved collar roll."

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Finally snagged a pink oxford in my size!
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Had my pink oxford for a year now, great thick oxford cloth and the best collar roll around for the price!
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Originally Posted by rodneytrousers View Post

I made a trip to NYC yesterday and made a point to visit the store, and after trying on a few shirts decided on the New York Slim Fit. I got a blue OCBD (it was still wrapped up), and when I got back to where I was staying the night opened it up to find it had a box pleat and no darts. Have they changed the styling of the NYSF? Going by the description on their website it seems like it should have the darts.

No if you look all the oxford cloths are done with a box pleat and no darts, they cut them with the same features regardless of the sizing (slim or regular) they're trying to preserve what makes an ocbd an ocbd. The proper "dress shirts" ie. spread collars etc. all have darts in slim fit.
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No if you look all the oxford cloths are done with a box pleat and no darts, they cut them with the same features regardless of the sizing (slim or regular) they're trying to preserve what makes an ocbd an ocbd. The proper "dress shirts" ie. spread collars etc. all have darts in slim fit.

This is most certainly NOT true. I received a Tokyo Slim Fit oxford BD collar shirt last week, and it had darts and no pleats, as expected.
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As do all of my NY slim fit oxfords
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Originally the Kamakura oxfords had two back darts and no pleats, but in response to criticism that darts were the antithesis of the Ivy spirit, they have progressively been updating their styles to produce shirts without darts, and featuring box pleats instead. This configuration is much closer to the BB Makers shirts that the Kamakura shirts (uncoincidentally called "Maker's Shirt" in Japan) are modelled on.

Rather confusingly there are both pleated and darted versions of the same shirts still available on the Kamakura site, so it pays to check if the description indicates whether the specific shirt you are looking at comes with pleats or not.
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I'm thinking about ordering my first shirt from Kamakura and would like to start out with a blue stripe OCBD. I was hoping you guys could help me out with which fit is best. I take an ESF in Brooks Brothers; is that equivalent to the New York Slim Fit in Kamakura? My apologies if this has been covered elsewhere in the thread; I read through about 20 pages without finding a fit translation.

Assuming that's the right fit, I can't seem to find any NYSF OCBDs in blue on the Kamakura website. I see them in red, purple, and green, and a broadcloth button down in blue, but no oxford. Any help there, too?
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Originally Posted by jawboneofa View Post

I'm thinking about ordering my first shirt from Kamakura and would like to start out with a blue stripe OCBD. I was hoping you guys could help me out with which fit is best. I take an ESF in Brooks Brothers; is that equivalent to the New York Slim Fit in Kamakura? My apologies if this has been covered elsewhere in the thread; I read through about 20 pages without finding a fit translation.
 

From what I have read, yes, that seems correct.  NY Slim ~ BB ESF.  Also, I can say from experience that the Tokyo Slim (which I wear) is a tad slimmer than the BB ESF (which I also weaer), but not by a whole lot. 

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Kamakura stocked up on the New York and Tokyo knitted shirts, which seem to be longer than the previous shirts. I've asked them if they changed their pattern:

We are sorry for the confusion, but the pictures do look different because we have used different torso.

However, we have not changed our knit shirts size.
So, all the knit shirts are the same measurements.
Please take a look at our sizing guide.
http://kamakurashirts.com/contents/styleguide/

We will retake the pictures with the same torso so that it will not cause any confusion.
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Thanks, Brad. I have a little extra room in the ESF so I might be able to make the TSF work, but I'm concerned about the armholes being too tight. I've read elsewhere in the thread that that is a problem for some. I think I'll stick with the NYSF just to be safe.
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Originally Posted by jawboneofa View Post

Thanks, Brad. I have a little extra room in the ESF so I might be able to make the TSF work, but I'm concerned about the armholes being too tight. I've read elsewhere in the thread that that is a problem for some. I think I'll stick with the NYSF just to be safe.


Great. If you remember to, I would be interested to hear how it turns out (i.e., how you find the fit compared to BB ESF). 

 

It seems tough to translate sizing across brands, bc based on my experience with Kamakura, it doesn't seem like you can pick a fit, then pick a size as I think you can at BB.  In my experience at BB, I decide I want ESF, then find my size on the ESF rack.  My experience at the kamakura store (confirmed by their sizing chart) is that you have to know your size, and hope that the fit available in that size works for your body. So when I was measured to be a 15 3/4 33, it was only available in TSF (which luckily worked). But maybe I'm missing something. 

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Originally Posted by bradp View Post

It seems tough to translate sizing across brands, bc based on my experience with Kamakura, it doesn't seem like you can pick a fit, then pick a size as I think you can at BB.  In my experience at BB, I decide I want ESF, then find my size on the ESF rack.  My experience at the kamakura store (confirmed by their sizing chart) is that you have to know your size, and hope that the fit available in that size works for your body. So when I was measured to be a 15 3/4 33, it was only available in TSF (which luckily worked). But maybe I'm missing something. 

That's an interesting observation. Now that I look at the measurements available in the different fits, I might have to go with the TSF.
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