What was confusing to me is that kamakura say it is done with "non-fusable interlining" - but in any case I'll be anxious to see yours and/or others assessment of the stiffness in any case once more of the new models get out there.
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Collar roll is excellent. It does appear lightly fused but that does not seem to detract from the roll.
I'll be ordering more in the near future.
Got Tokyo Slim broadcloths in button-down and cutaway from SF - think I'm going to try the NYSlim on this order. The Tokyo slim fits wonderfully in the body, but a hair tight in the shoulders, with the cuffs just a bit short. (for reference, a 16/35 TS). I also take a 16/35 BBESF - so think I'm going to attempt the 16-35.5 NYSlim and see what's up.
Anyone owns both Tokyo Classic and Slim Fits? The tight arm holes of the TSF start to irritate me. The fabric is continuously under my arm pits, which bothers me to the point im constantly fidgeting under my pits, and it actually makes me a bit agitated. The fit in every other area of my body is simply perfect. Is the Tokyo Classic much wider in the sleeves, or is it just a bit wider than the Slim Fits?
Edited by mik84 - 4/15/14 at 8:59am
I'll be heading to Tokyo in a little under a month and will without a doubt visit one or more of their stores. I'll report back, naturally - but before I go, has anyone been who hasn't posted on this thread about their experience already?
Also looking into the availability of NY slim/classic fits there.
My go-to shirt has always been Ralph Lauren's Custom Fit in a 16/35. On sale, I find the value compelling.
The only experience I have with Brooks is their Luxury Shirts in a slim fit. The shirts I'm referring to are Made in the USA, made of Egyptian cotton and retail for $185. Even on sale, I am hard pressed to say they are a good value. At full retail, you can do far better.
I wear a 16/35 in Brooks' Luxury Slim Fit.
I tried a 16/35 in Kamakura's Tokyo Slim Fit. It was like wearing a wetsuit. Much too small..
Based on Kamakura's stated sizing, the only other shirt they had that might fit me was the New York Classic Fit in a 16/35.5
I haven't worn the Kamakura yet, so I'm comparing a washed and shrunk Brooks Brothers shirt to an unwashed, unshrunk Kamakura shirt.
The Kamakura is narrower in the shoulders and significantly longer in overall length. The sleeve volume is similar on both. Relative to Brooks' LSF, I think the chest will be slightly smaller on the Kamakura after I wash it. Based on my measurements, Kamakura's armhole is 1/2 inch higher than Brooks (the distance between the collar buttonhole and the point directly on the placket horizontally across the chest from the seam intersection under the armpit is 1/2 inch shorter on the Kamakura shirt). In terms of fabric, Brooks' shirt is much more substantial. The Kamakura is a much lighter weight fabric. Overall, the Kamakura fits the way I want a shirt to fit - slim, but not form fitting. Just enough material not to restrict movement but not so much that it looks sloppy.
Overall, I'm very impressed with the Kamakura shirt. Provided I like the way it fits after I wash it, I will buy more.
Hope this helps.
I just received 2 spread collar TSF shirts and I'm a bit perplexed. Their listed size in cm is 41-89 (16-35).I have a Vintage Ivy shirt in a NY fit medium, which the site shows as being a 40-87 (15.5-34.5). I would have expected the new TSF shirts to have longer sleeves (they are unwashed and I have washed the Vintage Ivy shirt), but they are clearly a few cm shorter. Can anyone account for this? Is there some factor that I'm missing that would cause this discrepancy?
I just figured out that these shirts that should have been a 16-35 were altered to have a shorter sleeve (a 33). They would have been perfect for me with a 35 sleeve, however they are just short for me now. Therefore I am looking to sell these. If interested, check out my post here: http://www.styleforum.net/t/387096/2-kamakura-shirts-spread-collar-tokyo-slims-white-blue-16-33