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post #1456 of 1670

This might not be the right thread as I couldn't find the other one on Kamakura.

 

However, I was wondering if anyone could give any reccomendations sizing/fitting for Kamakura's dress shirts. I am esp. leery as they are Japanese and I imgaine some of their items like those of the Toyko fit wouldn't work for the typical American.

 

I am typically a 15/2-32-35 in the US size 5'11 in terms of height and of average weight/build.

 

I was wondering what fit of shirt would you recommend?

 

I am on the East Coast and about 5 hours away from Kamakura's store in NYC but don't want to make that trip unless I really have to.

post #1457 of 1670
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Originally Posted by Kevin24 View Post
 

I am typically a 15/2-32-35 in the US size 5'11 in terms of height and of average weight/build.

 

I have no idea what that sizing means, but to give you some idea, I'm 6'2", size 32 waist and usually take a 15.5 neck/35 sleeve shirt. The Kamakura NY Slim size 39-90 is perfect for me.  If you are slimmer and shorter than me then you might be able to fit into a Tokyo Slim size 39-87.

 

Or just do the smart thing and measure a well fitting shirt you already own and compare it to the measurements here:

http://kamakurashirts.com/contents/style-guide/

post #1458 of 1670
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IIRC they have three price levels, based on fabric quality: $130, $180 and ~$200. I went with the $180.

This is correct, but there's one more tier: $250.
The breakdown of different levels is basically like this:
$130 - only 6-9 options in house fabrics, think a basic white and blue broadcloth, maybe a pinpoint oxford cloth and other similar basic options.
$180 - this seems to be the majority of their fabrics and includes both house fabrics as well names like Canclini, Albini, I think some Thomas Mason (not sure which level, Superfine maybe?), and maybe some other stuff.
$200 - When I was ordering in early Jan they didnt have that many options at this price point (I think it was nicer Thomas Mason and maybe Albini stuff but cant remember exactly), but the salesman told me that they were going to be adding in a lot of options from their 200 series, and I did get an email update a few weeks later advertising this.
$250 - this IIRC is basically the 300 series fabrics of which there are about 6 or so. They may have a few really nice fabrics from other mills/makers, but I cant really remember. Suffice to say that there's not too many options at this price point.
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but unfortunately the MTM program is really limited.
Yes, it's pretty limited compared to other programs. If you like their style and OTR fits almost perfect but needs a few tweaks, then this is the way to go (Fit aside, I also personally like it cause I can get a French placket which they dont seem to offer OTR).
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This might not be the right thread as I couldn't find the other one on Kamakura.
Dont worry, this is the right place - there doesnt seem to be enough appetite for another Kamakura thread.
post #1459 of 1670
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Originally Posted by Rusty View Post

Yes, it's pretty limited compared to other programs. If you like their style and OTR fits almost perfect but needs a few tweaks, then this is the way to go (Fit aside, I also personally like it cause I can get a French placket which they dont seem to offer OTR).

I think the French placket is available OTR, but only when paired with Cutaway collars.
post #1460 of 1670
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Originally Posted by Spex View Post

I have no idea what that sizing means, but to give you some idea, I'm 6'2", size 32 waist and usually take a 15.5 neck/35 sleeve shirt. The Kamakura NY Slim size 39-90 is perfect for me.  If you are slimmer and shorter than me then you might be able to fit into a Tokyo Slim size 39-87.

Or just do the smart thing and measure a well fitting shirt you already own and compare it to the measurements here:
http://kamakurashirts.com/contents/style-guide/

In that same vein, I'm not too sure on what that sizing means either. I typically wear 15/32 or 15/33 shirts and my one Kamakura shirt is a 39-87 Tokyo Slim fit because the smaller size did not fit me. The arms are a little long and the waist is a little wide, but I think is their closest off the rack fit for me. Also the reason I only have one of their shirts.
post #1461 of 1670
If anyone wants to see the specifics of their MTM program, it's available online at their Japanese site. Click on this link, make selections as you go along and progress by clicking the next Step arrows at the bottom of the page.

http://shop.shirt.co.jp/shop/mtm/step1.aspx

On step 1 you'll see the shirtings. 
Step 2 you select Classic or Slim fitting shirts (in this case I'm assuming these are Tokyo size, although some tweaks can be made at a later step). Here you also select 1 of 8 available collar types and either French or Barrel cuffs (and it looks like the edge stitching?).
Step 3 you select from a limited number of shirt sizes, but that then activates drop downs where you can change the neck, sleeve, shirt length and cuff circumference sizes. Front placket, pocket options and monograming are also on this page.

I think that's it. So you basically need to know which shirt size fits your body best, as there's no option to tweak that. Not sure if the MTM offered at their NY stores differs. Hopefully this is useful info.
Edited by Spex - 2/12/16 at 4:49am
post #1462 of 1670
So I picked up my MTM shirt today. I'm VERY happy with the outcome. First, the shirt fits great even given their limitations with MTM. It could be a tad narrower through the body, and could definitely use a bit more shoulder slope, but overall their base pattern seems to work much better for me than say Luxire's does. Second, everything was exactly as ordered - no mistakes whatsoever, which if you've done enough MTM, you know is always a hazard. Third, and most importantly, their customer service was just fantastic. I ordered the shirt on February 3rd, they told me it'd be four weeks, and it came in today, just two weeks and one day later. Not only that, they offered to iron the shirt for me after I tried it on and gave me a free t-shirt and handkerchief before I left. Needless to say, I'm a Kamakura fanboy now. Once I break the shirt out I'll try to get the wife to take a couple pictures.
post #1463 of 1670
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gave me a free t-shirt

Wow! I just received an order for 6 MTM shirts from the Madison Ave store (which is my second MTM order) and I didnt get a t-shirt.

Was it one of these crazy silk t-shirts?
http://www.kamakurashirts.net/shop/pages/silk_m.aspx
post #1464 of 1670
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Originally Posted by Rusty View Post

Wow! I just received an order for 6 MTM shirts from the Madison Ave store (which is my second MTM order) and I didnt get a t-shirt.

Was it one of these crazy silk t-shirts?
http://www.kamakurashirts.net/shop/pages/silk_m.aspx

No, it's just a plain grey v-neck, don't worry you're not really missing out. Tbh, I had a little difficulty communicating with them, so I'm not even sure the exact reason they offered it to me. It might be because it was their new location. Jealous you got 6 MTM shirts from them though...
post #1465 of 1670
Quick (crappy) shot of the shirt I took at work today. Please excuse the low rise pants, they're from an old Suitsupply suit I break out every now and then.

post #1466 of 1670

blue and white OBCDs just got restocked, time to upgrade from my Uniqlo stalwarts

 

post #1467 of 1670
The best fitting OTR shirts I own are BB 15.5/35 slim/regent fit must-iron. (Tried 34, but arms were too short after washing.) What is my best option in the Kamakura fits? (FWIW, Brooks Brothers extra slim/Milano fit are too small in the yoke/shoulders.)

How much do Kamakura shirts shrink?
post #1468 of 1670
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Originally Posted by Van Veen View Post

The best fitting OTR shirts I own are BB 15.5/35 slim/regent fit must-iron. (Tried 34, but arms were too short after washing.) What is my best option in the Kamakura fits? (FWIW, Brooks Brothers extra slim/Milano fit are too small in the yoke/shoulders.)

How much do Kamakura shirts shrink?

Why don't you just compare the relevant dimensions of your well-fitting BB shirts to the various Kamakura fits instead of asking someone else to do the legwork? Size charts are readily available online.
post #1469 of 1670
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Originally Posted by Van Veen View Post

The best fitting OTR shirts I own are BB 15.5/35 slim/regent fit must-iron. (Tried 34, but arms were too short after washing.) What is my best option in the Kamakura fits? (FWIW, Brooks Brothers extra slim/Milano fit are too small in the yoke/shoulders.)

How much do Kamakura shirts shrink?

 

 I wear BB Milano fit shirts in 15.5/35 and Kamakura NY Slim in 39/90. For you I would suggest the NY Slim 40/90. I'm very confident this would be a good fit for you.

post #1470 of 1670
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Originally Posted by llamaone View Post

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Originally Posted by Van Veen View Post

How much do Kamakura shirts shrink?

Why don't you just compare the relevant dimensions of your well-fitting BB shirts to the various Kamakura fits instead of asking someone else to do the legwork? Size charts are readily available online.

Size charts don't tell you how much shirts will shrink.
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