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post #1006 of 1120
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Originally Posted by jimanchower View Post

Hopefully they've got some OCBD restocks to go along with their new site.

 

Amen, brother!

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After having read a fair bit on Kamakura here and elsewhere, I stopped by today along with my wife. It's an interesting story of how the Madison Ave. store first won me over and then lost me as a customer.

 

I had a wonderful experience from the moment I stepped in. I was attended to carefully by a female sales associate (I didn't catch her name), who took my measurements, understood what I wanted in terms of fit, and helped me get two oxford button-downs in the colors I wanted. From first to last, fully professional, alert, and fast service. She waited outside as I tried on shirts, asked me how they felt, made suggestions, etc. It was fantastic.

 

My wife, who was excited to see that they had a smaller women's line, had a dramatically different experience. Although we entered the store together (and were obviously a couple), she basically got a bizarre cold shoulder from the same associate. She asked to try on a top, which the SA somewhat curtly showed her and then more or less left her alone. She tried it out, came out, was not attended to by the SA. She had to hang it back up herself. The SA simply seemed to have forgotten all about her, not asking if it fit, or if she liked it, or other options...just nothing at all. As much as I was attended to, she seemed to not exist. The store was not at all very busy; it was just us and one or two other customers. 

 

Now, we've shopped at a wide range of places from consignment stores to Bergdorf's, Rag & Bone, Saks, etc. I learnt of my wife's experience after we left the store since she didn't wish to cause a scene. I have to say I remain very perplexed over the dramatic difference in customer service. I can say that my wife is extremely approachable and basically has never had people problems, so...this was all very irksome and disappointing.

 

I love the shirts. And I will likely buy more, but it won't be from the Madison Ave. store. 

post #1008 of 1120
Sharing the response I received from kamakura about the collar length disparity.

What I wrote: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Thanks again for the info, very helpful. If I might make a suggestion, perha
ps Kamakura could list these differences on the website.
It’s frustrating to me, I must admit, because I had read so much good about
Kamakura shirts (your button-down Oxford shirts in particular), and I came u
nder the impression that the collars were, as you say, 9cm long. But because
none of the slim fit options had sizes that would work for me (sleeves are
too long for my collar size with NY slim fit, sleeves are too short with my
collars size for Tokyo slim fit) the one I got was 8.5cm, and I was disappoi
nted. I kept the shirt and enjoy wearing it greatly (wearing it today, actua
lly), but I specifically bought it with the expectation that it would have l
onger collar points than my Brooks Brothers Oxford shirts (which are also 8.
5cm, though Kamakura’s shirts are better in that they are less heavily lined
and roll better than BB’s modern oxfords).
Another suggestion all together would be to: make the regular fit shirts wit
h the same collar lengths as the slim fit options. That would be my preferen
ce, given that the NY classic fit has sizing that works well for me. Perhaps
your client base around the world differ in what I as an American style ent
husiast likes, but I hope you’ll take my feedback nonetheless.

Again, thanks so much for being so helpful.

Their response:
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Thank you for your kind and detailed feedback.
We are very grateful to hear the honest opinion of our customers.
I have passed on your comments to our product development team and was explained that the reason the collar lengths differ is to compliment the body shape of the shirt and the physique of the wearer. The Classic Fits have a larger body, and the neck of the wearer tends to be thicker. Therefore, a longer collar length would make the shirt look slightly unbalanced. The neckband is also slightly higher for the Slim Fit shirts for the same reasons.

May we suggest that you choose the New York Slim Fit and have the sleeves altered?
Alternatively, if you are ever able to visit the store in New York, the Made to Measure service there will allow you to mix and match collar shapes with different fits. You can have the Slim Fit button-down collar with a Classic Fit body.

I'm sorry that you were disappointed with the shirts.
And I'm also sorry that we could not meet your request.

If there is anything else we can do, please don't hesitate to get in touch again.
post #1009 of 1120
Anyone ever had their shirts (I wear Tokyo Slim Fit) taken in at the waist from the side seam? For some of my shirts, the placket gap is a bit annoying...
post #1010 of 1120
Here in Cincinnati is an annual beer fest and comedy week called Brew Ha-Ha at Sawyer Park on the river, and my bro, his wife and I went last night. Seeing as the weather was in the 90sF with literally 140% humidity, we both sported the lightest weight shirts we could—him madras (Sid Mashburn), me linen (Kamakura's cut-away stripy shirt, which, incidentally, belongs to him). It didn't help—just standing around you soaked through.

I feel like the collar is a bit droopy and falls low on the neck. The fit is also baggy, though for linen that's acceptable—frankly just sewing in darts to give it some shape is probably what I'd do if it were my shirt (since sizing down wouldn't be an option bc the sleeves would be too short on the next size down).

Anyway, pic if you're interested. I dig the shirt, just not sure if the fit would make it worth $100 for me.
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post #1011 of 1120
Yeah that looks pretty baggy for a Kamakura, I wish they would offer linen in as many sizes as they do other shirts
post #1012 of 1120
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Originally Posted by Louys View Post

Yeah that looks pretty baggy for a Kamakura, I wish they would offer linen in as many sizes as they do other shirts

Couldn't agree more.

post #1013 of 1120
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Originally Posted by mossrockss View Post

Here in Cincinnati is an annual beer fest and comedy week called Brew Ha-Ha at Sawyer Park on the river, and my bro, his wife and I went last night. Seeing as the weather was in the 90sF with literally 140% humidity, we both sported the lightest weight shirts we could—him madras (Sid Mashburn), me linen (Kamakura's cut-away stripy shirt, which, incidentally, belongs to him). It didn't help—just standing around you soaked through.

I feel like the collar is a bit droopy and falls low on the neck. The fit is also baggy, though for linen that's acceptable—frankly just sewing in darts to give it some shape is probably what I'd do if it were my shirt (since sizing down wouldn't be an option bc the sleeves would be too short on the next size down).

Anyway, pic if you're interested. I dig the shirt, just not sure if the fit would make it worth $100 for me.
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did the linen dry quickly?
post #1014 of 1120
So I'm not sure whats going on, I bought 5 or 6 Kamakura dress shirts last fall/winter and just bought another 6 last month. Now after two washes on these shirts I can say that the new batch is much baggier and the sleeves much longer. They're supposed to be the same size 15 32.33 sadly all of them fit much larger than what I previously purchased.

Anyone with a similar experience with the dress shirts?
post #1015 of 1120
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Originally Posted by ThinkDerm View Post

did the linen dry quickly?

Not so much. I feel like it's a myth that linen dries quickly; it doesn't stick to you but whenever I wash my shirts and hang them to dry, even my Oxfords dry a bit faster than linen, haha.
post #1016 of 1120
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Originally Posted by gettoasty View Post

Anyone ever had their shirts (I wear Tokyo Slim Fit) taken in at the waist from the side seam? For some of my shirts, the placket gap is a bit annoying...

What's a placket gap?
post #1017 of 1120
When you sit and the placket between two button opens up?
post #1018 of 1120

anyone have bubbling/creasing on the non-OCBDs? 

 

Edit: I'm referring to my dobby cutaway


Edited by bradp - 9/7/14 at 11:03am
post #1019 of 1120
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Originally Posted by StephenB View Post

So I'm not sure whats going on, I bought 5 or 6 Kamakura dress shirts last fall/winter and just bought another 6 last month. Now after two washes on these shirts I can say that the new batch is much baggier and the sleeves much longer. They're supposed to be the same size 15 32.33 sadly all of them fit much larger than what I previously purchased.

Anyone with a similar experience with the dress shirts?

I'm about to order some but this makes me concerned...
post #1020 of 1120

@gettoasty

 

How did the new Tokyo slims fit relative to the last design?

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