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post #136 of 224
2/2/13 at 5:50pm
Just ordered a couple of Tojiro's DP 3 HQ knifes to see them in person. Will post pictures when they arrive. Hope I'll like them. Would be better for my budget than MAC pro knifes.
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post #137 of 224
2/2/13 at 7:43pm
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That looks nice, can you send it to NJ for testing?

i am allergic to the post office
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post #138 of 224
2/3/13 at 12:36am
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i am allergic to the post office

Arent we all...
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post #139 of 224
2/3/13 at 7:00am
Why are the traditional Japanese looking knives from the same makers more expensive?
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post #140 of 224
2/3/13 at 10:01am
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Why are the traditional Japanese looking knives from the same makers more expensive?
They aren't always.

But when they are the typical answer is because they take more steel and are harder to make.
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post #141 of 224
2/3/13 at 10:04am
Thanks Manton, I suppose it makes sense that a good execution of the hidden tang is a bit more difficult.
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post #142 of 224
2/6/13 at 10:09am
Amazingly, I was able to find a place not too far from me that had these available to play with. Buying one wasn't much of a decision once I had my hands on it.

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post #143 of 224
2/6/13 at 10:13am
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Amazingly, I was able to find a place not too far from me that had these available to play with. Buying one wasn't much of a decision once I had my hands on it. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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were you able to play with anything else?
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post #144 of 224
2/6/13 at 10:19am
The Misono, a couple of MAC knives,a Kasumi, and a Masahiro. The Misono felt really good too, but the Masamoto has a blade that's a bit more durable, so that ultimately sold me. So glad I found a place that had them, because I was seriously considering a 240- would have been a big mistake.
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post #145 of 224
2/6/13 at 10:23am
If you pay for the left handed version, can you have them just center the bevel instead?

I'm not sure I want to deal with sharpening an asymmetrical edge...and since I have to pay for the lefty switch and make it non-returnable, maybe I should just make it "normal"
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post #146 of 224
2/6/13 at 10:27am
Teh bevel isn't much of an issue with the masamotos. It isn't the whole blade that is asymmetrical, just the edge, so you can reshape it at will by yourself.
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post #147 of 224
2/6/13 at 10:28am
It's really not tricky to sharpen an edge 70/30. No tricker than 50/50.
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post #148 of 224
2/7/13 at 7:09am
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Why are the traditional Japanese looking knives from the same makers more expensive?

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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

They aren't always.

But when they are the typical answer is because they take more steel and are harder to make.

To elaborate on this answer, some Japanese blacksmiths will forge-weld different steels in their pieces with the hardest steel at the very edge, surrounded by softer metals for support. They do this frequently with chisels and plane blades which typically take more shock / abuse than your average kitchen knife, and if you look at the bevel you should notice the steel change in color towards the tip. That line, BTW, is sometimes called the Hamon, which becomes indelible if you have even a limited grasp of Spanish.
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post #149 of 224
2/7/13 at 7:12am
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To elaborate on this answer, some Japanese blacksmiths will forge-weld different steels in their pieces with the hardest steel at the very edge, surrounded by softer metals for support. They do this frequently with chisels and plane blades which typically take more shock / abuse than your average kitchen knife, and if you look at the bevel you should notice the steel change in color towards the tip. That line, BTW, is sometimes called the Hamon, which becomes indelible if you have even a limited grasp of Spanish.

What makes them indelible, bro?
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post #150 of 224
2/7/13 at 7:17am
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Originally Posted by itsstillmatt View Post

What makes them indelible, bro?

Because every time I read "Hamon" I think Ham. (Jamon). As soon as I think Japanese steel (chisels, razors, plane blades, and to a lesser extent knives) I think Ham -> Hamon -> Forge welding.

Odd thing to think standing at the urinal this morning, but there it is.
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