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BTW, the vent looks a lot better in the photo above - the one where you photoshopped out your footie pajamas.
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I'm torn on the buttons, honestly. Yes, you are right, fewer buttons would be less martial. But it is supposed to be a great coat. Other features work to gentrify it, namely the tweed and the envelope pockets. Without the extra row of bottoms added down below, there would be much less to suggest it is a great coat at all.

My main concern is not the number of buttons, but the buttoning point. You think it's too high, too low?

And who says I was wearing pajamas? Or anything?
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By the way, this is what I mean about the language of classic menswear having a powerful communicative value. We all understand that more buttons strikes a more military air. Outside classic menswear, who can say what changing the number of buttons would convey, if anything?
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My main concern is not the number of buttons, but the buttoning point. You think it's too high, too low?

I'd say a shade too high. Again, it's so slight.

If you had three rows, I'd probably move the upper three down by half the distance between each row.

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And who says I was wearing pajamas? Or anything?

That's messed up.

Mariano would throw up a little in his mouth if he read that.
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We all understand that more buttons strikes a more military air. Outside classic menswear, who can say what changing the number of buttons would convey, if anything?

Outside classic menswear it would still strike a more military air because outside classic menswear we like to not live in a bubble.
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Mariano would throw up a little in his mouth if he read that.

I actually think he'd appreciate what I'm doing. He used to say it's uncouth to wear new clothes in public.
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Outside of #classic #menswear,

more buttons = moar steez

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Outside classic menswear it would still strike a more military air because outside menswear we like not to live in a bubble.

I know what "grazie" and "ciao" mean even though I don't speak Italian. Yet I'm not foolish enough to believe they'd mean anything if not for the Italian language.
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I'd say a shade too high. Again, it's so slight.

Don't say that.
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I know what "grazie" and "ciao" mean even though I don't speak Italian. Yet I'm not foolish enough to believe they'd mean anything if not for the Italian language.

You can claim that military wear is part of your "classic menswear" lexicon as much as you like, but in that case I'm adding in M65s and bomber jackets and goretex parkas.
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in other words the idea of classic menswear need not exist for people to understand that more buttons references the military
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Much of men tailoring evolved from military tailoring.

It is still present in dress/ceremonial uniforms.

Combat clothes are have obviously evolved to incorporate the needs of modern warfare, utilising modern materials, construction methods and the like.
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If you had three rows, I'd probably move the upper three down by half the distance between each row.

Some variations to illustrate:

fooovercoat_variations.jpg

The first is the actual coat. The second is with the bottom row of buttons eliminated. The third shows three rows of buttons shifted downward as you suggest.
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Some variations to illustrate:

fooovercoat_variations.jpg

The first is the actual coat. The second is with the bottom row of buttons eliminated. The third shows three rows of buttons shifted downward as you suggest.

You should just leave it as it is.
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Glad you think so--can't change it now anyway! smile.gif

Just an aesthetic exercise to see what people prefer.
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