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post #106 of 181
4/2/07 at 10:46am
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Originally Posted by johnapril View Post
A conservative business suit: a thing so fucking simple made so fucking complicated by so many stupid people with so much damned money.

If it's so simple, then why is there so much confusion, so much controversy? Answer me that. You just want to blame far off "people with money"? Who the hell are you, William Jennings Bryan?

Open your mind and learn. Let's see if some genuine CBD knowledge can get through that pony tail.
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post #107 of 181
4/2/07 at 11:15am
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post
If it's so simple, then why is there so much confusion, so much controversy? Answer me that. You just want to blame far off "people with money"? Who the hell are you, William Jennings Bryan?

Open your mind and learn. Let's see if some genuine CBD knowledge can get through that pony tail.

Hey, slut. I am William Jennings Bryan.
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post #108 of 181
4/2/07 at 11:39am
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I'm trying to teach something here, for the benefit of my fellow man, in particular the younger generation which might not know how to get by in the concrete jungle. If you don't have anything constructive to add, butt out.

Your advice is terrible. No pink shirts? No french cuffs? This is not sound advice, it is the rantings of an career paranoid who is totally obsessed that others may be offended by something. This suit is hideous, but your advice seems to be: be as drab as possible.
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post #109 of 181
4/2/07 at 11:48am
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Your advice is terrible. No pink shirts? No french cuffs? This is not sound advice, it is the rantings of an career paranoid who is totally obsessed that others may be offended by something. This suit is hideous, but your advice seems to be: be as drab as possible.

You want to take stupid risks, that's your business. The rest of the guys here may not want to dress like interior decorators. These lessons are for them. As j has pointed out, it's easy enough to ignore posts you don't like.
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post #110 of 181
4/2/07 at 11:57am
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post
You want to take stupid risks, that's your business. The rest of the guys here may not want to dress like interior decorators. These lessons are for them. As j has pointed out, it's easy enough to ignore posts you don't like.

Funniest post ever. So funny. So post.
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post #111 of 181
4/2/07 at 12:06pm
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post
You want to take stupid risks, that's your business. The rest of the guys here may not want to dress like interior decorators. These lessons are for them. As j has pointed out, it's easy enough to ignore posts you don't like.

What do YOU do for a living? You were a speech writer and an author? Thus you worked on campaigns where dress is incredibly casual and in goverment where dress is super conservative but often not very good (read: sack suits and ll bean shirts). Not even in business casual environments with lawyers and executives from the most conservative east coast establishment institutions have I seen such "rules" in play. Your assertion that wearing "french cuffs" or a colored shirt makes you look like an interior decorator is totally and utterly ABSURD.

Why ignore you? You are the one getting upset. All I am doing is pointing out the flaws I see in what you are suggesting.
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post #112 of 181
4/2/07 at 12:23pm
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Not even in business casual environments with lawyers and executives from the most conservative east coast establishment institutions have I seen such "rules" in play.

You may not notice, but they are most definitely "in play." Maybe you work in some down market industry where men dress like clowns. But in the corridors of prestige and power, CBD is the only way to go. CBD gets you the job, keeps you in the job, and assists your rise. CBD now, CBD tomorrow, CBD forever!

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Why ignore you? You are the one getting upset.
I can assure you (really, truly) that I am not the least bit upset. I suggested you ignore me because it seems that YOU are getting upset, whether at me or at CBD, I can't tell. CBD is a useful tool, but it's not worth getting upset over, especially if professional advancement is not one of your priorities.
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post #113 of 181
4/2/07 at 12:24pm
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First, double breasted suits are absolutely tabboo.

Ha! You spelled taboo wrong. I'm reporting you to the Writer's Guild forthwith.
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post #114 of 181
4/2/07 at 12:26pm
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I wore hoodies and jeans last Sunday. I'll probably do it again tomorrow, and I promise to take some pics.

I did not know that Rubinacci made a hoodie. Interesting.
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post #115 of 181
4/2/07 at 12:27pm
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Ha! You spelled taboo wrong. I'm reporting you to the Writer's Guild forthwith.

As I've said before, pointless pedantry is NOT WELCOME in this thread. Don't you have some hand-stitched Kiton bespoke shoes to fondle?
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post #116 of 181
4/2/07 at 12:44pm
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post
You may not notice, but they are most definitely "in play." Maybe you work in some down market industry where men dress like clowns. But in the corridors of prestige and power, CBD is the only way to go. CBD gets you the job, keeps you in the job, and assists your rise. CBD now, CBD tomorrow, CBD forever!


I can assure you (really, truly) that I am not the least bit upset. I suggested you ignore me because it seems that YOU are getting upset, whether at me or at CBD, I can't tell. CBD is a useful tool, but it's not worth getting upset over, especially if professional advancement is not one of your priorities.

"Conservative Business Dress" as you are calling it, is basically the very drab dress from YOUR interactions with "Prestige and Power". As you yourself have admitted in the past 90% of people do not care about clothes, and this is certainly a common thing in government. However, just because 90% of people working at powerful government agencies do not care about how you dress does not mean that they got there because they dress blandly. You imply a causal relationship that does not exist. Law firms, accounting firms, fortune 500 companies (not "downmarket industries") -- I have worked in these places and deal with people on a daily basis that work there: your rules do not apply!

I would also add that taking your cues from politicians is also sort of misguided reasoning. Politicians dress in a purposely drab way so as to appeal to the spectrum of social classes, this is neither necessary nor altogether desireable for every businessman.
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post #117 of 181
4/2/07 at 12:52pm
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"Conservative Business Dress" as you are calling it, is basically the very drab dress from YOUR interactions with "Prestige and Power". As you yourself have admitted in the past 90% of people do not care about clothes, and this is certainly a common thing in government. However, just because 90% of people working at powerful government agencies do not care about how you dress does not mean that they got there because they dress blandly. You imply a causal relationship that does not exist. Law firms, accounting firms, fortune 500 companies (not "downmarket industries") -- I have worked in these places and deal with people on a daily basis that work there: your rules do not apply!

I would also add that taking your cues from politicians is also sort of misguided reasoning. Politicians dress in a purposely drab way so as to appeal to the spectrum of social classes, this is neither necessary nor altogether desireable for every businessman.

I can see I need to turn it up to eleven.

You may have worked in important places, but what you never realized is that your clothes held you back. You would probably be a partner or a CEO by now, or at least a general counsel, if you didn't dress like such a CLOWN



You probably never noticed all the snickering behind your back. You didn't pick up on the little insulting comments. When someone pointed out your paisly pocket square, you were so thick you probably took it as a complement.

Just be thankful you still have an income. In the meantime, stick around and learn something. It might -- I stress MIGHT -- not be too late for you yet.
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post #118 of 181
4/2/07 at 12:53pm
I would be interested in hearing where the below linked sport coat might fall on the OBTC scale. Also, as it regrettably does not come with matching trousers, I would welcome suggestions on how to pair it.

Thanks to all.


http://www.jpressonline.com/sportcoa...etail.php?ix=1
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post #119 of 181
4/2/07 at 12:56pm
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Holy $hit. Off the charts and well into PBCSCTRCWIEBWGDBSPBAB.
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post #120 of 181
4/2/07 at 12:59pm
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I would be interested in hearing where the below linked sport coat might fall on the OBTC scale. Also, as it regrettably does not come with matching trousers, I would welcome suggestions on how to pair it.

Thanks to all.


http://www.jpressonline.com/sportcoa...etail.php?ix=1



I think that one is an 11 out of a possible 10.


Nuts, most of my suits look like Manton's first post (DB's) It's a wonder I still have a job.
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